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Hello everyone! Im so glad I stumbled across this forum! Like most people on here- Im desperate for help and advice.

Im 36, and since last August, Ive been suffering from numbness and pins and needles in both hands. A few weeks later I started to get some neck pain although nothing severe. After many upsetting visits to the GP ( who swore I was suffering from depression and it was all in my head!) I self referred to physio who then , after a few weeks unsuccessful treatment, sent me for an MRi. after weeks of allsorts of theories ( carpal tunnel etc) Ive now discovered I have bulging discs in my neck, thoracic and lumbar regions ( have awful sciatica too).
Ive also been seeing a chiropracter for 2 months but nothing has improved.

The reason Im so destroyed over this is because Im a professional artist, My hands seem to be getting worse with permanent pins and needles. I dont really have much neck pain although they reckon the cervical disc is the culprit. I get a lot of pain in the thoracic and lumbar area though.

Im desperate not to have surgery- is there anyone out there who has suffered anything similar and has a story to tell? They say they are just going to keep their eye on me but my main concern is permanent damage to my hands- they are my life!

Im so upset and cant face thinking about what might happen. Is there anyone who can please help?

Thanks....sorry to moan!

Kathy x
 
Hi there

Sorry to hear of your problems.

may I suggest that you have a look at the Bowen technique as a gentle hands-on therapy which may be helpful to you.

There is a forum on this site but also try [link=http://www.bowtech.com]www.bowtech.com[/link] and read some of the information on this site or just put Bowen Technique into the search engine and have a read.

I must confess here that, as a Bowen therapist, I am biased, but also find that Bowen can help people with many difficult to resolve problems.

Best wishes

JJ
 
Hi Katink,

It seems that you have dislocated and / or pinched nerves in you neck, back and possibly in your shoulders.

What I would suggest to you, is to see an excelent Massage Therapist and tell him / her what you are going through and he / she will help you quite a bit. I am not sure that they will relieve all of your problems as it requires special skills to reset dislocated and / pinched nerves.

Good Luck

Joe
 
I too have those symptoms and I insisted on seeing a orthopod for a second opinion, he thinks I have a compressed cord because of a displaced C7 in my neck. If it is they can fix it by surgery. I am having a MRI today.

I hope they do surgery as I think not having it treated could be a major problem if I get shunted in the car, whip lash injury with a dodgy neck is worrying. So Do have surgery if its offered.

You have to insist to get what you want, the choice of hospitals is up to you. I asked for a proper orthopaedic hospital referal, which I got.

If I need surgery it will be a neurosurgeon that will do it.
 
Hello Caringsoul,

Surgery should be the last thing on your mind. A compressed cord is a compressed nerve which is a pinched and / or a dislocated nerve and you should be seeing an Alternate way such as Massage Therapist, Chiro, Osteopath, etc. before going to the extreme.

I have resetted many dislocated and / or pinched nerves and it is easy if you know what you are doing and there is no danger. If you check me out, you will see that I am telling you the truth.

Good Luck

Joe
 
Thanks Joe, I will see results of the MRI first and see what consultant says.

Displaced C7 in my neck may be dodgy for any manipulation?
 
Thankyou so much everyone for your replies.
Painless Joe- Im really interested in your technique...massage isnt something Id thought about as I assumed this was too far gone to have any effect. I have to admit though- my 15 or so visits to a chiropracter really isnt doing much at all, yet Im too scared to not have any treatment at all!
Would a massage therapist know how to work around disc problems? Im a little worried they could do more harm!

Thanks for the help- it sounds really promising and Ill give anything a try rather than have surgery at the moment!

Kathy
 
Hello Kathy,

Good to hear that you will go through Alternative Medicine first before goingfor an operation. I know you are suffering as it is very painful what you have and Iam with you on this.

As for the Massage Therapist, you should be looking for an experience one and if not too shy, try a man first as they have strong hands but if you find a woman who is a bit strong, give her a try. Do not be affraid to question the Massage Therapist on anything you want to know and they will give you an answer regarless. Massage Therapists work the lymphatic and blood circulatory systems, the muscles, looseling the nerves and the skin,helping to loose some weightat the sametime. Trust me on this as it will help you. He or she should let you know as to the visits ie: once a week, twice a week, once every two weeks, etc.. You will feel a big difference after the first session and a bigger one after the second session.

Please, keep us to date on your treatments / recovery.

Good Luck

Joe
 
Hi Katink

I had the same problem as you. In the end I lost most of the feeling in my right hand and a great deal in my left.

It was found that one of my discs had collapsed and was blocking the spinal fluid moving easily.

I ended up having the disc removed and a cage inserted into my neck. I tried everything before going for surgery as an holistic therapist myself, but nothing gave me the feeling back in my hands until I had the op. Even then I still can't feel the ends of my fingers in my right hand through nerve damage, but can now write again (I am left handed)and don't drop things all the time.

By all means try every avenue going, but don't write off the surgery option however dangerous it can be.
 
Yes I agree, I wont consider alternatives for me till I know fully what the MRI scan shows.
If the consultant says manipulation or chiropratie will manipulate the disc back then I will have a go, but I personally dont think he will.
 
Hi Antari

Im so sorry youve suffered the same problem- horrid isnt it? Im reluctantly trying to admit to myself that surgery may be the only option I have left- Im just so terrified. I wondered if you would mind pleasetelling me a few things about it...how long you were in hospital, the recovery time etc? It would really help a lot! I also wondered how long you had the problem initially, before you started to lose the feeling in your hands? Im very worried I wont ever get it back- being an artist its a matter of life and death for me sadly.

Thanks for your help

Kathy x
 
Hi Katink
Just as a brake, tyre and exhaust specialist garage is likely to recommend new brakes, tyres and exhaust, a surgeon will always recommend the operation. The National Institute for Clinical Excellence (NICE, aw how cute,) the International Journal for Clinicians recommends exploring all avenues of โ€œconservativeโ€ treatment before recommending Cervical Spinal Fusion/ Discectomy.
I am not saying surgery is the wrong choice for you. Think carefully before making the decision to take this route.
 
You may find the following book interesting:

Dr. [link=http://www.answers.com/topic/john-e-sarno]John E. Sarno[/link]- Healing Back Pain: The Mind-Body Connection (ISBN 0-446-39230-8)
 
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    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, ANGEL, MEERA, DIYA, NUR, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธCassyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new cute Lily with curve boys 25โ€™s and young slime super GFE 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin
  42. See You Health Center:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  44. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Nayla & New Girl Kelly is here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very sexy, and so friendly. Beautiful girl with great massage skills and willing to give you a happy fun session multiple times if you
  48. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
  49. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
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