Snubbed at Star; Maggie at Joyful came to rescue

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Having been snubbed at Star for "you can't touch unless you get NR", I quickly zipped across the 401 to make my way to Joyful. I chose Maggie who looked amazing today with this pastel pink one-piece dress.

Quick reminder - this place is not for mileage. This has been the case since forever. It is just for a basic release for cheap prices.

Maggie has got to be one of the most amazing racks for an Asian MPA. She is definitely not a "padded" China doll like Chi-Chi (who?). She works hard to please and always wants to learn. Her broken English is also getting better.

On another note, she said that Jennifer and Riya opened their own place. Anyone know where this is?
 
Would've been shorter trip up Kennedy, the new girl may be on roster now.

Joyful is zero mileage but reliable massage.

Didn't know Jennifer left. Hm...Good luck Ria & Jennifer.
 
Hmmmm can't touch unless you get a NR. I always assumed that was the case isn't that why its called a reverse? Sorry I tend to get the highest options so these things you speak of only confuse Frank.

Just kidding but that has been my experience as well but at another spa.

Not to be an idiot here but wouldn't the price you spent at two different places have amounted to a NR or better at one place?
 
Maggie does a nice session. She loves to talk, even if she acts unsure about her english. Indulge her a little, encourage her, and let her talk. She can really create a fun and sexy atmosphere if you let her do things her way.
 
No offence Scrooge but that's how the ladies make their money. You're not one of those guys that asks for basic and starts to feel up the girls, are you?
 
Exactly. You expected a service that you didn't want to pay for.
 
Yes and no. It can differ from lady to lady also. Again, I've experienced nude with no touching and some touching but no DP. However, either way I now always get the top option. I won't see a lady again if I get the top option and she says no touching.

Splurge a little a pay the extra $40.
 
DLL I wasn't disagreeing with what you said. I'm just commenting on Star. Star cost $100 for N/R and with that and the right girl that's pretty good.
 
Yeah you probably end up spending more by not tippping appropriately if you want something pay the correct tip.

Who pays for a burger and hopes for a steak. If you want steak just pay for it. From my experience I have had the no touching topless or nude. Not really my cup of tea.

That chemistry you speak of is probably the girl hoping to turn your crank enough to get you to cough up more dough.
 
Yup whatever works for you is right. I'm sure there is a thrill in the something for nothing approach.

Me I'm a little less frugal.
 
Hmm, I don't think I need you to tell me how the girls make the money and, having been around on massageplanet.net for a while, I take offence that you accuse me of feeling up girls with a basic.

I have my own reasons for asking for a nude session and I am entitled to that. In fact, my choice of session is personal and it is unfair for anyone to call me names or accuse me of some improper behaviour. Just because you get a "top" option does not mean everyone else needs to follow. In my eight years of going to an MP, the standard is, like DLL has said, touching is allowed with nude and hit&miss for topless.

On this occasion, I have never seen Natasha before and there is no detailed review here of her. What is wrong with choosing a nude session here? There have been many occasions/reviews I have read where someone would just casually drop $100-140 for a NR only to come out disappointed.

I have been a customer of this chain for many years, including when it was Studio B up the street. I have probably been a customer of this chain for longer than some of you guys have been on massageplanet.net. I have had many, many sessions (and even had a personal connection) with the former favourites of this chain, including Victoria, Melanie, Liz, Kayla, Kelly, Olivia, Jennifer (Riley), Jayda, and the "old" Natasha (i.e., Felicity's sister). Not once have I been told that I cannot touch with a nude session. The new girls at this place are not even close to the names I mentioned not only in looks but also in attitude.

Anyway, my original post was more of a review of Maggie at JF and no more than a one-liner about what you can expect from Natasha.
 
Well consider yourself lucky nude/topless for most is hit or miss for most of us regular guys. Yeah this is typical people zero in on the one liner part rather than the meat of your original post.

Guess it just seems harsh to say snubbed when you yourself say that nude is hit or miss. Even if MPAs in the past have allowed touching doesn't mean future ones should. There's a distincition in description and price between nude and nude reverse.

Why not consider yourself lucky for getting more for less and chalk it up to YMMV that you didn't get a NR for N price?

That for me is the part that got me to post.

On the rare instances that I don't get a slide I don't walk out disappointed that I paid for less and got less. Furthermore, if I pay for a slide and one MPA is friendlier than another one I chalk that up to variations in technique. As with any option there's some wiggle room but you can't fault someone for providing a service that is most commonly found under a different service that you didn't pay for.
 
First of all, I did not say it is hit& miss with nude. I said, based on my experience, 1) touching is allowed with nude and 2) touching is hit & miss with topless.

Secondly, based on my experience and explanation of sessions by MPAs, the difference between a nude and nude reverse is not whether the MPA can be touched. The difference is that technically speaking, with a NR, the MPA would get on the table and the customer gets to massage the MPA. I have had the difference between a N and a NR explained to me many times, and I have had a lot more of the definition I just gave than the one Natasha gave me (or the one you have come to understand). And I do understand that within the B Chain, there is effectively a $60 cap on tips so one can end up with a BS for a NR tip - which I think is a great deal. So, for instance, both Jayda and Victoria have provided me with Russian before in a NR session. In this case with Natasha, I don't think it is even close to being a YMMV. If it was YMMV, it would be a case of how she would allow some (but not others) to touch her with a N session.

Lastly, it appears that you have not gotten anything other than a NR or BS. So you would not necessarily know the "norm", so to speak, about touching with a N or TL session. My experience is not unique, as you can see from DDL's post below. To use your words, the service "most commonly found" with a nude is that touching is allowed.

I think you have misread what I said. I did not say anywhere that I was looking for a BS for a N tip or anything that is beyond what I was willing to pay for. What I offered was a $40 tip for a nude session looking for the "most commonly found" service I referred to in the previous paragraph.
 
Well let's just chalk it up to a misunderstanding.

Maybe I read it wrong but I thought someone said something about enjoying the chemistry/excitement of finding out what they can get for a nude. Guess it was misinterpretation.

There's a difference between cheap and frugal and by saying I'm not frugal I'm saying that I'm a more careless with my spending (i.e. lazy..... pay the top option and get what I want and leave happy).

You said what works for you or me is fine. I agreed.

If you want to read it as condescending or insulting that's your perogative.

Not suggesting you should go for a BS, just NR if that's what you want. But as scrooge pointed out my experience is primarily with NR and BS but my few topless/nudes left me unsatisfied at the top spas and BS have left me exceedingly happy. NR would be passable but I like just a bit more fun.

Going for a slide for me is worth it because I know I can't get what I typically look for for less. Nothing to do with experience nor being a big shot. Hey I've stayed away from massageplanet.net get togethers (e.g. massageplanet.net parties or poker nights) because for some reason I thought the other guys were high rollers and I'm just a dude with a mortgage making 5 figures.
 
Too bad. You've been missing out.:o

Guess you haven't come path with goddess versed in fine art of BS.
 
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