Lavender Spa Thread Gone?

[Lalallala]

The business licenses, if they have one, don’t relate to the business they are in so what’s to lose?

Huh? You can’t operate without one.

 

[Pay2Play]

Huh? You can’t operate without one.

Good one…

 

[krayjee]

What grounds? Maybe Bylaw ?

ByLaw is coming down pretty hard after a few inspections last month. Almost all the spas in Richmond hill and East Beaver area got notices to seize operations unless you're properly licensed and operating as RMT clinics or Body Rub parlors. It's very much like what happened 2 yrs ago in Newmarket. I was at ByLaw office yesterday and I was told some spas have options to apply for different types of licenses and some spas at some locations have no chance at all depending on the locations and zoning. Don't be surprised if you see some girls started leaving East beaver area spas.

Deleting old threads and changing ad formats won't do anything. What the spa owners should do is find someone with good communication skills, get all the spa owners gang up together, get a lawyer and fight their case at City with the help of some city councillors

 

[OG_funguy]

ByLaw is coming down pretty hard after a few inspections last month. Almost all the spas in Richmond hill East Beaver area got notices to seize operations unless you're properly licensed and operating as RMT clinics or Body Rub parlors. It's very much like what happened 2 yrs ago in Newmarket. I was at ByLaw office yesterday and I was told some spas have options to apply for different types of licenses and some spas at some locations have no chance at all depending on the locations and zoning. Don't e surprised if you see some girls started leaving East beaver area spas.

Deleting old threads and changing ad formats won't do anything. What the spa owners should do is find someone with good communication skills, get all the spa owners gang up together, get a lawyer and fight their case at City with the help of some city councillors

It's expanding beyond East Beaver...

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

We may need to go back to building model airplanes

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

ByLaw is coming down pretty hard after a few inspections last month. Almost all the spas in Richmond hill and East Beaver area got notices to seize operations unless you're properly licensed and operating as RMT clinics or Body Rub parlors. It's very much like what happened 2 yrs ago in Newmarket. I was at ByLaw office yesterday and I was told some spas have options to apply for different types of licenses and some spas at some locations have no chance at all depending on the locations and zoning. Don't be surprised if you see some girls started leaving East beaver area spas.

Deleting old threads and changing ad formats won't do anything. What the spa owners should do is find someone with good communication skills, get all the spa owners gang up together, get a lawyer and fight their case at City with the help of some city councillors

ByLaw is coming down pretty hard after a few inspections last month. Almost all the spas in Richmond hill and East Beaver area got notices to seize operations unless you're properly licensed and operating as RMT clinics or Body Rub parlors. It's very much like what happened 2 yrs ago in Newmarket. I was at ByLaw office yesterday and I was told some spas have options to apply for different types of licenses and some spas at some locations have no chance at all depending on the locations and zoning. Don't be surprised if you see some girls started leaving East beaver area spas.

Deleting old threads and changing ad formats won't do anything. What the spa owners should do is find someone with good communication skills, get all the spa owners gang up together, get a lawyer and fight their case at City with the help of some city councillors

A class action type defence sounds like what they need to do. If it’s a zoning issue, they’re probably SOL. Landlord could try for a variance but it’s a stretch.

 

[Pay2Play]

We may need to go back to building model airplanes

No way. I always end up gluing my hand to my dick.

 

[OG_funguy]

Things are happening fast and no one knows how this will play out so some spas are just being cautious. If they have to operate as RMT clinics, probably not a good thing to have a history of sexy pictures and detailed reviews on their ad lol.

Similar thing happened recently with a spa further west, they had to remove their ad and change their style...

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

Things are happening fast and no one knows how this will play out so some spas are just being cautious. If they have to operate as RMT clinics, probably not a good thing to have a history of sexy pictures and detailed reviews on their ad lol.

Similar thing happened recently with a spa further west, they had to remove their ad and change their style...

Bylaw rarely starts any campaigns out of the blue. They always react to complaints from someone. Even small violations are acted on due to a complaint. Maybe RMTs have lost too much business to these places. I have a good benefit package and didn’t use a dime on massage last year

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

Then again they wouldn’t be able to open in the first place if zoning is the issue. Vacancy rates would surely spike if this is taken seriously and not defended.

 

[SpaSpaLover]

ByLaw is coming down pretty hard after a few inspections last month. Almost all the spas in Richmond hill and East Beaver area got notices to seize operations unless you're properly licensed and operating as RMT clinics or Body Rub parlors. It's very much like what happened 2 yrs ago in Newmarket. I was at ByLaw office yesterday and I was told some spas have options to apply for different types of licenses and some spas at some locations have no chance at all depending on the locations and zoning. Don't be surprised if you see some girls started leaving East beaver area spas.

Deleting old threads and changing ad formats won't do anything. What the spa owners should do is find someone with good communication skills, get all the spa owners gang up together, get a lawyer and fight their case at City with the help of some city councillors

Is EB impacted by this bylaw enforcement?

 

[OG_funguy]

Bylaw rarely starts any campaigns out of the blue. They always react to complaints from someone. Even small violations are acted on due to a complaint. Maybe RMTs have lost too much business to these places. I have a good benefit package and didn’t use a dime on massage last year

Of course, the funny thing is they are being selective. Some spas are getting letters whereas other ones in the same plaza are not…at least not yet.

 

[Buaya]

A class action type defence sounds like what they need to do. If it’s a zoning issue, they’re probably SOL. Landlord could try for a variance but it’s a stretch.

Most of the units in Beaver Creek are Industrial Condo units - individual landlords who do not really care who rents from them - I do not thnk they take the trouble to apply for a zoning variance from Industrial to Retail especially a Spa or Wellness Centre. And with that many cncentrated in 2 buildings, I am sure it was a Red Flag.
In a Shopping Plaza type all units are zoned Retail. Whether the landlord allow a Wellness Centre is again at te landlord discretion. Allowing another one if there is an existing one, it is probably going to be a stretch,

Many spa owners are trying to move to the west - Mississauga, Oakville etc. Not easy to find an accomadating landlord. I know, we tried.

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

Most of the units in Beaver Creek are Industrial Condo units - individual landlords who do not really care who rents from them - I do not thnk they take the trouble to apply for a zoning variance from Industrial to Retail especially a Spa or Wellness Centre. And with that many cncentrated in 2 buildings, I am sure it was a Red Flag.
In a Shopping Plaza type all units are zoned Retail. Whether the landlord allow a Wellness Centre is again at te landlord discretion. Allowing another one if there is an existing one, it is probably going to be a stretch,

Many spa owners are trying to move to the west - Mississauga, Oakville etc. Not easy to find an accomadating landlord. I know, we tried.

If this happened in Oakville, they would close all the spas. It’s very puritan over there.
Even with retail zoning, certain uses are not allowed even though they are classified as retail. In a plaza setting with one landlord, there could be restrictions in a lease from an existing Tenant. I highly doubt you’ll see a spa in the same plaza with one of the large grocery or drug store. The smaller Chinese grocers aren’t as sophisticated and may not care.

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

I nominate OG or KJ for mayor of Richmond Hills

 

[OG_funguy]

I nominate OG or KJ for mayor of Richmond Hills

Pretty soon we're gonna see MP members picketing in front of City Hall...

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

I nominate OG or KJ for mayor of Richmond Hills

What a great campaign platform for the mayoral race

 

[krayjee]

Is EB impacted by this bylaw enforcement?

Yes. But one good thing was the notice on first week of March 6 title read ..Zoning contravention -- Illegal use. Then they hand delivered a notice yesterday dated March 12th title read ...Zoning By Law contravention-- No Body Rub Parlor license.

I got confused and went down to By Law office on Elgin mills Rd with two spa owners from 2 different locations. The spa owner who didn't get the hand delivered notice yesterday got the bad news. Her place has Zoning restrictions and the first notice stayed. All the spas at 160 East Beaver can still apply for different type of licenses to stay open. I don't know what kind of notices were given at the spas at 155 and 165 East Beaver. I might go and find out today.

 

[Buaya]

The city of Toronto has money grab going. Wants all holistic spas to apply for Body Rub licence. Licence fees is in the 1,000's. Espa was served a notice to change their licence.

Anyway, as of right now, the situation is still very fluid. Pending appeals etc, all depends of how strict the by law enforcement will be.

 

[Buaya]

As an aside, an enterprising Lawyer or Paralegal can make a killing helping these Spa Owners navigate the hoops at City Hall to get a Body Rub Licence. I am sure they will need a lot of help if one has never done it.