Question Can someone explain the difference between Semi Legit and Semi Hollistic spas

What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
As @OG_funguy noted, this question takes the thread in another direction. Why not start a separate thread with your question?
 
What are your top spa recommendations for BBBJ and DATY? A separate "thank you" for any recommendations of spas where girls offer CFS.
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
 
You will eventually get FS with any semi legit and definitely with semi holistic ladies that provides PS with enough repeat. Itโ€™s just cost you more for the extra service. Theyโ€™re using PS to select the right clientele. Itโ€™s part of their business tricks. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Heck itโ€™s easier to get FS than DFK haha ๐Ÿ˜‚
SO true!! haha
 
Seriously though, kissing is not that big a deal.

I have kissed strangers at office parties, on the subway, at City Hall, at Xmas & NY parties, plus as a kid even, put out the lights and some girl has her tongue down your throat.

Itโ€™s fun but itโ€™s not like BBFS.

Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
 
Oral cavity has the 2nd most germs, next to the gut, and I'm not making out with anyone's gut.

We're talking DFK too, not some lame ass LFK.
Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
 
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Itโ€™s very difficult hobbying at all if you worry about germs.

I wanted to avoid mouth to mouth contact with these girls, but then one day this cute short Asian girl just looked me in the eye, snapped her fingers & did a sexy little shimmy, then came right up to my face and did the most relaxed natural kissing.

I was converted!

I got an instant boner even days later just remembering.
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
 
Oh it's not the germs I'm worried about, it's the next level up.

I think with my brain, not my dick, at least 95% of the time.
Definitely Iโ€™m not there yet. My dick takes control frequently!
 
If it is not the germs, then I am confused.

Level up? Like a video game?

Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
 
Germs is an umbrella statement for a subset of specific categories - in there is bacteria and viruses. Bacteria and viruses is next level up, infections, STDs.

It would be like saying you're afraid of the weather. No you're not afraid of the weather, you're afraid of lightning storms and getting your ass zapped.
Arenโ€™t all infections either bacterial or viral? Whatโ€™s the concern?
 
Can someone please explain the difference between a Semi Legit spa and a Semi Hollistic spa in terms of services. I always used to think bodyslides were common at semi legits but seen in some other threads that when girls do BS or any sort of nude services it makes it semi hollistic.

Are there actually places that only offer massage and fully clothed HJ and nothing else?
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
There is something in between these days btw ,
Itโ€™s called semi holistic where you can get up to bodyslides and over ( anything can happen in the room ) some places like Bellagio, Acewell, Aqua bay , suko , sentosa , lavender ,GRW , GW , ocean motion , Ellegance ( not been in a while after management changed I have been to more frequently this year so far ..
 
There are so many spas these days . It is assumed that most services will occur either right of the bat or eventually.
There are so many spas posting on here daily with no reviews, yet they are getting regular customers doing the services that you mentioned or even more which is why they continue to advertise.
Top spa recommendation are entirely subject.
The sex trade is very deep and what you see posted on here is just the heavily abridged version of the tip of the iceberg for which you have to be reasonable and flexible to read between the lines.
Written like a true veteran
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
 
If it's holistic, full nudity is guaranteed. And from there you can negotiate bodyslides, DATY, Greek or Russian finish, etc

Semi legit, only HJ is guaranteed, and if lucky you may get some tits and pussy play. Then again within semi legit places you may have both restrictive and liberal chicks. At two particular semi legit places, without divulging name of location or chick, I managed to get a BBBJ CIM. Good luck. Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Cuz after a decade of hobbying I'm still figuring things out
Hahaha

Didn't you state in one thread you only go to 2 semi legit spas, well known spas

Kinda just gave it away
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
There are a lot of โ€œlatter in life ladiesโ€ flying under the radar, but there are also some young ladies who also who do not want to admit that they are actually in the sex trade as do the white knights that $ervicecthem?
 
Letโ€™s simplify thisโ€ฆ

Holistic = full service typically with clock watchers with occasional, but not normal exceptions (if you find the exception enjoy the hell out of it)

Semi-Holistic = later in life ladies who donโ€™t want to identify as sex workers so they stay within some weird boundaries while slippinโ€™ and slidinโ€™

Semi-Legit = typically later in life massage oriented ladies who are not expected to anything extreme but many do
Disagree. :no

Many young gals ๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ง get into semi-legit biz f/ non-SW backgroundโ€ฆ. Right now, Bellagio has 2 young girls, Lena & Marilyn, just learning the trade, & generally just do hjs without nudity. Roll the clock backโ€ฆ 2017โ€ฆ & Lucy herself = legit msg girl trying out semilegit โ€ฆ

Many holistic spas got some pretty old gals working there 2โ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‰

While some mpas age ๐Ÿ‘ต outta holistic into semilegit, thatโ€™s certainly not only career pathโ€ฆ some semilegits = young girls w msg backgroundโ€ฆ or no xxxperience @ allโ€ฆ that think giving a guy an HE = no big dealโ€ฆ in fact, mebbe fun ๐Ÿ˜

โ€ฆ& many semilegit & semiholistic girls reveal full menu w repeat visitsโ€ฆ even gals who came f/ retail & nvr did SW B4โ€ฆ

Im shur Iโ€™m not only guy whoโ€™s watched my dick ๐Ÿ† disappear into the ๐Ÿ‘„ mouth of an apparently inxxperienced mpa โ€ฆ xxxperienced girls no 2 do bbbj :banana b4 u cover the dick in oil! o_O

โ€ฆ ability 2do bjs ofc doesnโ€™t require a special licenseโ€ฆ
 
It's more about the identity of the spa (and not the girls per se), here it is in simple terms. The caveat being that anything can happen behind closed doors whether it's semi-legit, semi-holistic or whatever...

Semi-legit - a spa that still prides itself in giving a good massage but of course happy endings are provided. Usually the bosses are okay with some mileage such as girls taking off parts of their clothes. Some examples are JR, Suko, Lotus, E&M...

Semi-holistic - a spa that still requires their girls to be able to do a decent massage but bosses are a bit more lenient in terms of mileage and services such as BS are okay. Some examples are SL, Acewell, BN, Aqua Bay, Lavender...

Holistic - full service spa, very little focus on the massage
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’– MakeIt Monday ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’– your ultimate destination for luxury Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakville. ๐ŸŒŽ๐ŸŒ9 stunning Girls from China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” 34D Suki, Cindy, Selena, Kelly, Amber, Busty Echo, JPN Yui, RMT Miya & ๐Ÿ†•Jessica โ€” ๐Ÿง˜โ€โ™€โœจTable Shower special on ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽˆ Hit up 647-695-6354๐Ÿค™ or text to ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169 โœจ160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, Richmond Hill ๐Ÿ’ฐLet the fun times roll, baby!๐Ÿ™Œ
  30. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center :Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Kelly ,New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Baby ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Yoyo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella ,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry , address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  31. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: New Young girl Big-breasted big Big boobs big butts May, Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Vita ,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Bobo, Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  32. Sunrise Spa:
    ๐Ÿ˜˜ We have a wonderful Asian spa in downtown Toronto ๐Ÿ˜˜ 302 Adelaide St W, 2nd Floor ๐Ÿ˜˜ Today is Mika, Apple and Kitty ๐Ÿ˜˜ 416-916-7276
  33. #203MoMo&Beauty:
    MoonMoon spa/416 887 8801/8131Yonge st #203 white skin Latin Spanish girl &Asian girl today /// Young curvy body Colombia girl in Tuesday
  34. Sparkling Spa:
    Sexy Korean Massage Girl Summer is working at Sparkling Spa with Service Queen Zoe today. Real pictures of Summer & Zoe๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏCall or text to book appointment ๐Ÿ“ฒ โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ’„๐Ÿ˜ป Wonder spa [9421Jane st unit 127)Please โ˜Ž๏ธ4165000-800,4young girl working every day,๐Ÿ’„Amy is Vietnamese young sex girl,open maid,๐Ÿ’„Mimi is younge sexy girl beautiful face long leg,most of all she know how to make man happy,๐Ÿ’„Mina is36DCup smooth skin ,she can provide back walking nice body slide,get more experience soft to medium, must try๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐ŸŒบ
  36. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 5 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ LUCY, ASHA, NISHA, ANGEL, MEERA, DIYA, NUR, PAYAL PEARL, MIMI ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Rose๐ŸŒน - A sexy new addition to our lin
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoyo๐ŸŒธCarly๐ŸŒธTiffany๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธTania Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธIvy๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธCassyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  40. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young new cute Lily with curve boys 25โ€™s and young slime super GFE 30โ€™s open mind, pretty Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  41. AliceSpa:
    MONDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 Sexy Young Girls Today at Alice Spa, : AMY (12pm โ€“ 9pm) is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. LISA (12pm-9pm): is a Korean internet celebrity, young early 20โ€™s, milky white skin
  42. See You Health Center:
    Sasa Very Sexy Vietnamese friendly and milfy . body is amazing Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl 5โ€™ 2โ€, 100 lbs black Hairโ€จGFE, BBbj, DFK Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ416-988-2950
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Candy She is a Vietnamese๏ผŒ Face and body to die for. Her smile will make you melt. Sami Gorgeous Model Type CBC Vietnamese School Girl Cici Cute Skinny Sexy Vietnamese Girl With Voluptuous Huge C Melons Provides Amazing Service โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  44. New Oriental Health Centre:
    โค๏ธ Nayla & New Girl Kelly is here today๐Ÿ’„~๐Ÿ“žCall ๐Ÿ“ฒ Text: (647) 381-2688 ๐Ÿ’„Make Your Day Incredibly Delicious ๐Ÿ‘ Our girls provide lots of service options & are Extremely Open-Minded ๐Ÿค— We're Open 9am - 2am everyday! Drop in to Unit 26, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill.
  45. Endless Joy Spa:
    โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ[GRAND OPENING]โœจโœจโœจโœจโœจ ๐Ÿ’žEndless Joy Spa๐Ÿ’ž ๐ŸŽ‡ (155 East Beaver Creek Rd Unit #8, Richmond Hill) 416-731-8565๐ŸŽ‡10am-2am, New First Day Young Slim Petite Chinese Vivi, Tall Slim Sexy Chinese Kelly, Sexy Chinese Coco, Young Sexy Chinese Abie, Young Sexy CBC Rachel.
  46. Sunrise Health Centre:
    ๐Ÿซฆ Angela & Noor are here Today! ๐Ÿ“ž๐Ÿ“ฒ (647) 325-8086 ๐Ÿ’ฆ We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. ๐Ÿ’‹ They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime ๐Ÿšถโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿšถโ€โžก๏ธ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  47. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Summer โค๏ธ has nice sexy body, and nice breasts. She can give very good massage and fun service. Very sexy, and so friendly. Beautiful girl with great massage skills and willing to give you a happy fun session multiple times if you
  48. AmoreSpaEtobicoke:
    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 โ˜Ž 437-688-2407 โ˜Ž This is the only official schedule for AMORE SPA: Monday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & Tiny Spinner LALA CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. Tiny LALA is unbelievably good
  49. ASPA:
    ๐— ๐—ข๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐€ ๐’๐๐€: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  50. ForeverWarden:
    Monday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ดโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Bella, Cindy & Ruby. Bella is around 5โ€™3โ€ with a thin to medium build, C Cups, and a pleasing personality. She can offer dfk, bbbj and cfs as well as a good massage experience. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups & wonderfully long nipples. Her massage is nice, her bbbj will drive you wild
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