How Escorts/MPAs Can Ruin Your Life

[krayjee]

Shes still a gem, just not for me anymore.

I never actually felt special, ok maybe the first 15 times lol.

She doesnt have a real BF, but Im sure she has 2-3 other guys like me who go on "dates" with her and do all her bidding. I think I was her #1 tho by the way she acted.

Anyway I wont be posting on this forum anymore so good luck to you!

YOU WILL BE BACK!

 

[Ursus]

Shes still a gem, just not for me anymore.

I never actually felt special, ok maybe the first 15 times lol.

She doesnt have a real BF, but Im sure she has 2-3 other guys like me who go on "dates" with her and do all her bidding. I think I was her #1 tho by the way she acted.

Anyway I wont be posting on this forum anymore so good luck to you!

Not under this 1 handle maybe, but you will use your other 40+ handles to post. So, let's be real here.

 

[topo112]

Shes still a gem, just not for me anymore.

I never actually felt special, ok maybe the first 15 times lol.

She doesnt have a real BF, but Im sure she has 2-3 other guys like me who go on "dates" with her and do all her bidding. I think I was her #1 tho by the way she acted.

Anyway I wont be posting on this forum anymore so good luck to you!

So you used to go on"dates" with her! Nice! Did you pay for the funny times during dates or it was just coffee and movies? I think you'll experience other girls but sooner or later you'll miss her and see her again for fs and company. But good luck and hopefully you find a real gf.

 

[Mulva]

If an MPA or escort ruins your life, or anyone for that matter, it's your fault. People gotta own their own shit, and not allow others to manipulate them. I've been played, by a civilian, but looking back it's on me cause I ignored the red flags.

 

[HonestBob]

Im not even going to touch on the money aspect as that one is obvious but here are some other ways sps ruin lives.

1. You Lose Your Drive/Hunger

2. You Get Addicted

3. You Get Played

4. You Lose Interest In "Normal" Girls

5. You Get Used To Insta-Gratification

6. You think an erratic and unstable lifestyle is "normal"

For all the guys and girls/women that want out of the Spa world addiction, I promise that if you stay with my messages the next few weeks, you`ll have a better chance to achieve this break from stupidity.

While the initial message in this thread from @Massagie888 is very smart, it starts with consequences instead of dealing with the causes. You @Massagie888 are played now by a girl, and I deeply feel for you and for her, but this is not how you or her get out...

First you have to understand the Spa World. In order to understand it, you have to see how similar it is with a sect or a jail environment. Think about Scientology or Fake Ministers business for example, all the people that get out from their influence say: "How was I ever so stupid to be in for so many years? I did waste my life in a wrong way. I was possessed, while I always believed that I was in control.". Why is that? Because any sect, like the Spa world, has its own reality that is the only REALITY for the sect members, and a fake reality for EVERYONE else outside of the sect. Also the members of the sects as part of the lie, are always told that are in control, while actually they are controlled and played. While one is a Scientologist, one views the world from the Scientology point of view, and only from that point of view everything makes sense. For everyone else outside of Scientology, his life as Scientologist is outright stupid and wrong. The very same is with the person caught in the Spa World.

The Spa World, is a Fake World, with the relationships, things, terms and understandings up-side-down on PURPOSE. The major actors in the Spa world are the Pimps, Girls and Losers(or Fuckers). The Spa World is a zero sum game in which the Pimps are always Winning, the Girls score initially some Wins and have major losses over a longer period of time, and the Fuckers are always losing, that's why they should be more properly called Loser Fuckers. What is amazing is that the Loser Fuckers believe they are in control, like any sect member.

Before I will continue with my exposition, please, figure out for yourself, that as a reader of this site we are like most of us readers a Loser Fucker. Also please be aware that some of the people in here are Pimps, so they may water down our discussion, because they want to remain in control. While being a Loser Fucker in the Spa World, we are like that member in the sect. We pay the bill for the leaders of the sect aka the Pimps. We pays the bills for the fake ministers of God so to speak. And even worse we are believers and perpetrators of a Fake Reality that is actually damaging to us.

Why a Loser Fucker is a victim of a Girl, and why a Girl is a victim of a Pimp, it is essential part of the structure of the Spa World, and I will talk later in more detail about this.

 

[JEG]

For all the guys and girls/women that want out of the Spa world addiction, I promise that if you stay with my messages the next few weeks, you`ll have a better chance to achieve this break from stupidity.

While the initial message in this thread from @Massagie888 is very smart, it starts with consequences instead of dealing with the causes. You @Massagie888 are played now by a girl, and I deeply feel for you and for her, but this is not how you or her get out...

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Oh, I like where this is going

Too late for me Bob, 35 years and stopped counting.

People need to understand that on all forums there are the "losers", sex workers and pimps and owners. Other forums which are heavily moderated have the ability to "slant" the discussion and indeed censor it when they deem it necessary.

For the girls part you need Dr.Phil to sit down with them, many girls come from a poor upbringing and suffer from it. I know of a girl who told her bf "you about the money or nahw", I can assure you, that is a train wreck that has already left the station.

The pimps have nothing, lazy mf that just end up sucking the life out of the girls who think they are taking their lives in a positive direction. the problem is that that time is short lived and the girl becomes replaceable for a younger version. This is the same for the owners.

It is a world onto itself, hopefully not too many try to dive into it.

 

[krayjee]

If an MPA or escort ruins your life, or anyone for that matter, it's your fault. People gotta own their own shit, and not allow others to manipulate them. I've been played, by a civilian, but looking back it's on me cause I ignored the red flags.

Very well said. We all know what games we are gonna play when we get into this hobby, but when we ran into girls who are very good at this game , we got sucked in, beaten badly and then blame the girls after things fell apart. Most of us have been played and some of us try to play them too. At the end , the better player came out as winners and walked away and the loser felt they have been manipulated. It's you who let them manipulate. The best way to play this game is play with their emotion, tell them what they love to hear, fuck them and dump them when you are still ahead and always make sure you have 2-3 girls in hand at the same time like most of these girls who have 2-3 guys in their pockets all the time.

 

[JEG]

If an MPA or escort ruins your life, or anyone for that matter, it's your fault. People gotta own their own shit, and not allow others to manipulate them. I've been played, by a civilian, but looking back it's on me cause I ignored the red flags.

Taking responsibility for your action holds true for the scammers too. So don't cry foul when you are exposed, that is part of the game. I was still being threatened even after judgement including hinting that her husband would be aggressive. She turned tail and ran when she realized that I know if her husband has a brush with the law he is going to in big shit as no judge is going to listen to his excuses and promises of turning his life around.

The saying 2 to tango comes to mind. I disagree to a certain extent also where the business owners allow this behavior to occur and indeed think it is funny is not being a responsible business owner. So ownership of your actions is holds true, I don't give a pass because it smells like pussy.

 

[Ursus]

So don't cry foul when you are exposed, that is part of the game. The saying 2 to tango comes to mind.

I completely agree JEG. So many guys are here claim to not want Slag/Massagie888 to post all his shit, but when I start to expose him, they run to his defence and try to suggest I am wrong for posting his personal info on the board. These guys are scared of standing up to Slag. These guys would rather see Daniella or another escort live in fear than have someone expose Slag. Absurd.

I never want to hear Playfulfun express his love or admiration for Daniella. When it counted, he supported Slag and wanted to shame Daniella.

 

[smarteric80]

For all the guys and girls/women that want out of the Spa world addiction, I promise that if you stay with my messages the next few weeks, you`ll have a better chance to achieve this break from stupidity.

While the initial message in this thread from @Massagie888 is very smart, it starts with consequences instead of dealing with the causes. You @Massagie888 are played now by a girl, and I deeply feel for you and for her, but this is not how you or her get out...

First you have to understand the Spa World. In order to understand it, you have to see how similar it is with a sect or a jail environment. Think about Scientology or Fake Ministers business for example, all the people that get out from their influence say: "How was I ever so stupid to be in for so many years? I did waste my life in a wrong way. I was possessed, while I always believed that I was in control.". Why is that? Because any sect, like the Spa world, has its own reality that is the only REALITY for the sect members, and a fake reality for EVERYONE else outside of the sect. Also the members of the sects as part of the lie, are always told that are in control, while actually they are controlled and played. While one is a Scientologist, one views the world from the Scientology point of view, and only from that point of view everything makes sense. For everyone else outside of Scientology, his life as Scientologist is outright stupid and wrong. The very same is with the person caught in the Spa World.

The Spa World, is a Fake World, with the relationships, things, terms and understandings up-side-down on PURPOSE. The major actors in the Spa world are the Pimps, Girls and Losers(or Fuckers). The Spa World is a zero sum game in which the Pimps are always Winning, the Girls score initially some Wins and have major losses over a longer period of time, and the Fuckers are always losing, that's why they should be more properly called Loser Fuckers. What is amazing is that the Loser Fuckers believe they are in control, like any sect member.

Before I will continue with my exposition, please, figure out for yourself, that as a reader of this site we are like most of us readers a Loser Fucker. Also please be aware that some of the people in here are Pimps, so they may water down our discussion, because they want to remain in control. While being a Loser Fucker in the Spa World, we are like that member in the sect. We pay the bill for the leaders of the sect aka the Pimps. We pays the bills for the fake ministers of God so to speak. And even worse we are believers and perpetrators of a Fake Reality that is actually damaging to us.

Why a Loser Fucker is a victim of a Girl, and why a Girl is a victim of a Pimp, it is essential part of the structure of the Spa World, and I will talk later in more detail about this.

Very interesting, Bob! I agree with you, that people that are spending their time and money with prostitutes and proudly talk about their "achievements" online cannot have a better name that Loser Fuckers.Maybe Exhibitionist Loser Fuckers? It is tragically funny how they believe are in control, while the only thing they control is cashing more an more money from the bank account and give the money to the girls and their pimps. They got so into the process of paying for sex, so they don't see that a working girl is a parking lot in which they put money so they can stay there until they put money or other payer takes their spot. Amazing blindness for the Loser Fuckers...

I also like your analogy between the Spa World and the sect of Scientology. Anyone can see, even above in this thread what complete nonsense they recommend. They say, if you have a problem with a girl, get "more girls". This is their solution??? They are so blinded, so they lost the fact that more girls mean more money to spend, and "playing a girl" is cashing for one, "playing three girls" is keep putting money in three parking meters at the same time. They did it for such a long time, they don't even get it anymore. They are played and they believe they are the ones that are holding the aces. Any sensitive outsider would clearly see that "More girls mean more problems". The girls play you always, because they GET the MONEY and they REMAIN with the money after all is said and done. If a girl has 7 Loser Fuckers that get 7 times the money, if a Loser Fucker has 5 girls he PAYS 5 times more. Amazing blindness...

I'm afraid that many young lads read these reviews from the Loser Fuckers and they take their advice as smart or genuine. The young men from outside this world, don't understand that the Spa World is a money grabbing scheme that relies on the wordt type of addiction : sexual addiction.

Are the Losers Fuckers actually Pimps when they promote girls? Think about it, if they really like a girl, a gem how they say it, it is not possible they want her to be super busy! What is the result of a prostitute "gem" being very busy: she is more tired, she always watches the clock and eventually the Loser Fuckers as Promoters end up licking a body that wasn't even washed between clients. They became so tricked that they create competition for themselves or are they outright Pimps in the business?

Bob, I'm curious about your take on this and your continuation...

 

[HonestBob]

Very interesting, Bob! I agree with you, that people that are spending their time and money with prostitutes and proudly talk about their "achievements" online cannot have a better name that Loser Fuckers.Maybe Exhibitionist Loser Fuckers? It is tragically funny how they believe are in control, while the only thing they control is cashing more an more money from the bank account and give the money to the girls and their pimps. They got so into the process of paying for sex, so they don't see that a working girl is a parking lot in which they put money so they can stay there until they put money or other payer takes their spot. Amazing blindness for the Loser Fuckers...

I also like your analogy between the Spa World and the sect of Scientology. Anyone can see, even above in this thread what complete nonsense they recommend. They say, if you have a problem with a girl, get "more girls". This is their solution??? They are so blinded, so they lost the fact that more girls mean more money to spend, and "playing a girl" is cashing for one, "playing three girls" is keep putting money in three parking meters at the same time. They did it for such a long time, they don't even get it anymore. They are played and they believe they are the ones that are holding the aces. Any sensitive outsider would clearly see that "More girls mean more problems". The girls play you always, because they GET the MONEY and they REMAIN with the money after all is said and done. If a girl has 7 Loser Fuckers that get 7 times the money, if a Loser Fucker has 5 girls he PAYS 5 times more. Amazing blindness...

I'm afraid that many young lads read these reviews from the Loser Fuckers and they take their advice as smart or genuine. The young men from outside this world, don't understand that the Spa World is a money grabbing scheme that relies on the worst type of addiction : sexual addiction.

Are the Losers Fuckers actually Pimps when they promote girls? Think about it, if they really like a girl, a gem how they say it, it is not possible they want her to be super busy! What is the result of a prostitute "gem" being very busy: she is more tired, she always watches the clock and eventually the Loser Fuckers as Promoters end up licking a body that wasn't even washed between clients. They became so tricked that they create competition for themselves or are they outright Pimps in the business?

Bob, I'm curious about your take on this and your continuation...

Very astute comments, Eric! Still, let me continue to elaborate on the subject of Regulars into the Spa World, also called the Losers Fuckers.

The goal of my articles is to help some Regulars to get out of this Spa World that has control over them. Also, I want to create awareness for young men that want to enter into this wold to think twice, as it is a world in which they may lose far more than they imagine before entering into it. Please read my previous article in the thread, because this is a continuation of it.

A normal man that enters into the Spa World is like you, Eric: he sees a Woman as a potential relation. The normal man is biologically aware that a Woman is either in a relationship with another Man and as a result not interested in his advances, either with a Man but looking to break free and find a better one, either single looking or not looking around. The normal man, the man not caught inside the Spa World, wants to have an EXCLUSIVE relationship with a Woman and considers natural that he is the ONLY boyfriend with a Woman at a CERTAIN moment in time. During the friendship, he holds the Woman accountable and breaks up with her, if she gives herself to others. There is an expectation of faithfulness, both ways, in the relationships outside of the Spa World. This is normality.

Now let's see what is wrong with the Regular Client in the Spa World. Initially, in his first trips to the Spas, he was a man that wanted a hot relationship with a hot woman. However, after going for a while to Spas, the Regular loses the natural biological tendency of having a Woman exclusively for himself and only sees in the Woman the Object for his pleasure. He objectifies the Woman and he feels very well about it. What he misses unfortunately for himself has grave consequences. While he objectifies the Woman, he also merchandises the Woman. The "working girl" is not anymore a person, she doesn't have a responsibility of her own to remain faithful to him, she cannot be hold accountable, so she is paid to be owned as a "merchandise" in increments of half hours.

In the moment in which the Regular transforms the "working girl" in an "bought object by increments of half hours", he becomes dangerously hooked into the Spa World. From then on, he does everything to own as much time as possible with the "object", especially, if he is infatuated with the girl, which eventually happens to every Regular. You will see amazing situations, in which otherwise smart and astute businessmen, will pay a fortune as Regulars to have a night with a prostitute that at the same time sells sex for $100 to another man. Why is that? Because the time to own the object has "prime time" for the Regular. The Regular as Loser Fucker wants to have the object for a night, so he has to pay dearly. If not, he fucks in a row and licks after others immediately with the risk of no shower in between, so he wants privileged treatment, and he is willing to pay for it. In his illusion a night with the prostitute as owned object is a win for him, regardless of how much money and time he spends to obtain this.

The Regular as a Loser Fucker is completely owned by the girls, because he cannot have them, he can only buy time from them. You will see sometimes 2-3-4 Regulars paying and considering themselves AT THE SAME TIME boyfriends of the same girl. They become so obtuse in seeing the girls as objects that are bought by time slots, that they will compete with each other and pay for the girls time. The girls will take one of them for lunch and one of them for dinner, and both of them to the store to buy expensive purses, jewelry or outright put them to pay their credit cards. And the Loser Fuckers will PAY, so they have the girl Prime Time. In the meantime the girl will still sell herself cheap for everyone that doesn't pay more, while they will give their phone number to most of the potential Loser Fuckers that will take the place of the current ones one day in the future. Keep in mind the girl will give her phone number to every guy that looks he has some money to spend. So there is harsh competition out there between Loser Fuckers. If the girl works a few years we talk about more than 1000 potential clients that may text her anytime, to request time from her.

The Regulars as Loser Fuckers are so blinded in objectifying the girl, so they will never get angry on the girl, they will not request from her to be EXCLUSIVELY theirs. A normal man outside of the Spa World would not even consider such a relationship as valid, still the Loser Fucker will put lots of money, time and cunning to get as much time in competition with other Loser Fuckers that fight to get the same time. Even if the the Regular is owned, he considers himself a winner and in control, whenever he has acquired the time with the girl, and he will ignore all the rest of the time that the girl sells to the others.

The girls, use instinctively this transformation in the Regulars, and sell their time to the richest or to the one that is willing to pay the most. You will be surprised to find out that what the girls are making in the Spa is only a fraction of what they make from Loser Fuckers that compete to have "their time" outside of the Spa as "boyfriends".

So let me repeat: The Spa World is damaging to the Regular. The damage happens in the heart and the mind of the Regular from the moment he objectifies the Woman and by objectifying he buys time with the "working girl". Even a stupid, ugly "working girl" will be able to control sometime good looking and rich Regulars and get a fortune from them, by selling time and calling them boyfriends. It is mind boggling for the men outside the Spa World, but it is a tragically real funny story for the Regular Loser Fuckers that are wasting their life and money inside the Spa World.

I will continue the presentation because I want to help you brothers...

 

[topo112]

Very astute comments, Eric! Still, let me continue to elaborate on the subject of Regulars into the Spa World, also called the Losers Fuckers.

The goal of my articles is to help some Regulars to get out of this Spa World that has control over them. Also, I want to create awareness for young men that want to enter into this wold to think twice, as it is a world in which they may lose far more than they imagine before entering into it. Please read my previous article in the thread, because this is a continuation of it.

A normal man that enters into the Spa World is like you, Eric: he sees a Woman as a potential relation. The normal man is biologically aware that a Woman is either in a relationship with another Man and as a result not interested in his advances, either with a Man but looking to break free and find a better one, either single looking or not looking around. The normal man, the man not caught inside the Spa World, wants to have an EXCLUSIVE relationship with a Woman and considers natural that he is the ONLY boyfriend with a Woman at a CERTAIN moment in time. During the friendship, he holds the Woman accountable and breaks up with her, if she gives herself to others. There is an expectation of faithfulness, both ways, in the relationships outside of the Spa World. This is normality.

Now let's see what is wrong with the Regular Client in the Spa World. Initially, in his first trips to the Spas, he was a man that wanted a hot relationship with a hot woman. However, after going for a while to Spas, the Regular loses the natural biological tendency of having a Woman exclusively for himself and only sees in the Woman the Object for his pleasure. He objectifies the Woman and he feels very well about it. What he misses unfortunately for himself has grave consequences. While he objectifies the Woman, he also merchandises the Woman. The "working girl" is not anymore a person, she doesn't have a responsibility of her own to remain faithful to him, she cannot be hold accountable, so she is paid to be owned as a "merchandise" in increments of half hours.

In the moment in which the Regular transforms the "working girl" in an "bought object by increments of half hours", he becomes dangerously hooked into the Spa World. From then on, he does everything to own as much time as possible with the "object", especially, if he is infatuated with the girl, which eventually happens to every Regular. You will see amazing situations, in which otherwise smart and astute businessmen, will pay a fortune as Regulars to have a night with a prostitute that at the same time sells sex for $100 to another man. Why is that? Because the time to own the object has "prime time" for the Regular. The Regular as Loser Fucker wants to have the object for a night, so he has to pay dearly. If not, he fucks in a row and licks after others immediately with the risk of no shower in between, so he wants privileged treatment, and he is willing to pay for it. In his illusion a night with the prostitute as owned object is a win for him, regardless of how much money and time he spends to obtain this.

The Regular as a Loser Fucker is completely owned by the girls, because he cannot have them, he can only buy time from them. You will see sometimes 2-3-4 Regulars paying and considering themselves AT THE SAME TIME boyfriends of the same girl. They become so obtuse in seeing the girls as objects that are bought by time slots, that they will compete with each other and pay for the girls time. The girls will take one of them for lunch and one of them for dinner, and both of them to the store to buy expensive purses, jewelry or outright put them to pay their credit cards. And the Loser Fuckers will PAY, so they have the girl Prime Time. In the meantime the girl will still sell herself cheap for everyone that doesn't pay more, while they will give their phone number to most of the potential Loser Fuckers that will take the place of the current ones one day in the future. Keep in mind the girl will give her phone number to every guy that looks he has some money to spend. So there is harsh competition out there between Loser Fuckers. If the girl works a few years we talk about more than 1000 potential clients that may text her anytime, to request time from her.

The Regulars as Loser Fuckers are so blinded in objectifying the girl, so they will never get angry on the girl, they will not request from her to be EXCLUSIVELY theirs. A normal man outside of the Spa World would not even consider such a relationship as valid, still the Loser Fucker will put lots of money, time and cunning to get as much time in competition with other Loser Fuckers that fight to get the same time. Even if the the Regular is owned, he considers himself a winner and in control, whenever he has acquired the time with the girl, and he will ignore all the rest of the time that the girl sells to the others.

The girls, use instinctively this transformation in the Regulars, and sell their time to the richest or to the one that is willing to pay the most. You will be surprised to find out that what the girls are making in the Spa is only a fraction of what they make from Loser Fuckers that compete to have "their time" outside of the Spa as "boyfriends".

So let me repeat: The Spa World is damaging to the Regular. The damage happens in the heart and the mind of the Regular from the moment he objectifies the Woman and by objectifying he buys time with the "working girl". Even a stupid, ugly "working girl" will be able to control sometime good looking and rich Regulars and get a fortune from them, by selling time and calling them boyfriends. It is mind boggling for the men outside the Spa World, but it is a tragically real funny story for the Regular Loser Fuckers that are wasting their life and money inside the Spa World.

I will continue the presentation because I want to help you brothers...

So how much $$$ do you think you lost being a regular? Did you use to buy her presents too? And where is she now? Did she made you believe she wanted a relationship with you?

 

[Hangdai]

they will give you the ULTIMATE GFE to keep you locked in (hobbyists who got this know what I mean). .

So that's what they call it now "Ultimate GFE"? Sounds better than the usual 4 letter acronym.

It's way more common than most guys know, and yes, most guys would be "hooked" by the lady if it was offered.

 

[freewilly416]

Honestbob, I don't see myself as a loser fucker. The money I spend is fully disposable and I don't want to be any mpa's boyfriend or shill them to sick fucks on a forum. I just want some fun and in exchange ill pay for it now and then. Yes, i objectify women, but I still treat them with respect.

Some people may have different prerogative but who are we to judge.

 

[HonestBob]

So how much $$$ do you think you lost being a regular? Did you use to buy her presents too? And where is she now? Did she made you believe she wanted a relationship with you?

Whatever I write here is for people to stay away from the Spa World. If I can make a few men think twice before becoming a Regular and a few Regulars to get out of it, my goal is achieved.

So how much $$$ do you think you lost being a regular?

I have had 3 different phases, that I think are common. First phase, I went 2-5 times per year for a few years. During this period, I was a man looking for some new varied sexual experiences. Secondly, I started to spend around $5,000 per year for a few years. I became a regular, and slowly my self-esteem lowered and lowered. The more joy I had with the "girls", the lower the self-esteem after the joy. The last year June 2016 to July 2017 I spent $15,000 split 6,000 in Spa Time and $9,000 in acquiring favors from girls outside of their regular work-time schedule.

Did you use to buy her presents too?

Obviously I was a complete Loser Fucker. Do you think I would talk, if I don't have the experience of being hefty stupid contributor to the Spa World...

And where is she now?

They are doing exactly the same as before. Always various providers wait in line. The girls remain always with our money. If I don't want to pay anymore, no need to worry, there are other Loser Fuckers that will. And a site like this one, encourages them to do so, without pointing out the drawbacks of being part of it.

Did she made you believe she wanted a relationship with you?

Yes. She told me exactly what I wanted to hear and she never wanted me out of her Spa life. Tomorrow if I wanted, I can go back and start cashing again. I was a good provider after all...

 

[HonestBob]

Honestbob, I don't see myself as a loser fucker. The money I spend is fully disposable and I don't want to be any mpa's boyfriend or shill them to sick fucks on a forum. I just want some fun and in exchange ill pay for it now and then. Yes, i objectify women, but I still treat them with respect.

Some people may have different prerogative but who are we to judge.

freewilly416, your comment is legitimate and deserves a longer answer that I will give in the next week or so.

Before answering to you, I would like to obtain agreement with you on the following: do you agree that we are not paying for massage? Do you agree that we, Regulars or not, Loser Fuckers or not, we are paying a prostitute for sex and we conveniently call it massage? Please assess this with your own mind and from your own experience. I know this site is humorously called massage planet, but please read a few pages. How many women are going for a "massage" like this? How many men are MPAs or are working in those places to do a massage for a man client ? How many women did you meet in the waiting room of the here advertised "good massage places". Before I answer you, it is essential for everyone that reads these threads to realize that he is among those "select" herd of low esteem men that "pay prostitutes for sex".

 

[topo112]

Whatever I write here is for people to stay away from the Spa World. If I can make a few men think twice before becoming a Regular and a few Regulars to get out of it, my goal is achieved.

So how much $$$ do you think you lost being a regular?

I have had 3 different phases, that I think are common. First phase, I went 2-5 times per year for a few years. During this period, I was a man looking for some new varied sexual experiences. Secondly, I started to spend around $5,000 per year for a few years. I became a regular, and slowly my self-esteem lowered and lowered. The more joy I had with the "girls", the lower the self-esteem after the joy. The last year June 2016 to July 2017 I spent $15,000 split 6,000 in Spa Time and $9,000 in acquiring favors from girls outside of their regular work-time schedule.

Did you use to buy her presents too?

Obviously I was a complete Loser Fucker. Do you think I would talk, if I don't have the experience of being hefty stupid contributor to the Spa World...

And where is she now?

They are doing exactly the same as before. Always various providers wait in line. The girls remain always with our money. If I don't want to pay anymore, no need to worry, there are other Loser Fuckers that will. And a site like this one, encourages them to do so, without pointing out the drawbacks of being part of it.

Did she made you believe she wanted a relationship with you?

Yes. She told me exactly what I wanted to hear and she never wanted me out of her Spa life. Tomorrow if I wanted, I can go back and start cashing again. I was a good provider after all...

Don't feel bad Bob, many of us have spent extra time and money with those beauties. Consider it money well spent cause their company filled a void in our lives, but life goes on and we learn, as long as we don't forget it's just entertainment we're fine. There're so many single women outside mps who need a little company, we don't have to depend on sps/ mpas . l don't even know how much I've spent, but i haven't seen a regular for a while and realized i was spending too much since i've been able to save some coins.

 

[HonestBob]

Honestbob, I don't see myself as a loser fucker. The money I spend is fully disposable and I don't want to be any mpa's boyfriend or shill them to sick fucks on a forum. I just want some fun and in exchange ill pay for it now and then. Yes, i objectify women, but I still treat them with respect.

Some people may have different prerogative but who are we to judge.

There are 3 more articles written by me in this thread. Please spend the time with them too, if you want out of the Spa World, which is bad for you. On this article I'll address the specific issue of paying for sex.

Normal Man + Woman = Normal Relationship. Normal Relationship = Sex, Friendship, Empathy, Conversation, Common interest. A Normal Man, as a man doesn't need to pay money for Sex, he can create a relationship with that woman of his choice and live sex with her correlated with a deeper feeling, emotion and connection. Everyone agrees this is better sex. To add to this, there is one more important qualitative difference in this sex relationship between a Normal Man and a Normal Woman : it is an exclusive sexual relationship for a period of time, by not being promiscuous both Man and Woman feel valued and their self esteem increase during the relationship. A Normal Man knows that he has everything that he needs to attract a Woman and have a sex relationship with her.

Now let's assess the Loser Fucker who is The Regular Spa client. The sex addicted individual that believes himself in control. Loser Fucker(Regular Spa Client) + Woman as "Working Girl" = SEX ONLY IF and FOR HOW LONG the Loser Fucker pays for SEX. If the Loser Fucker doesn't pay, he will not receive anything from the girl. So there are people here in the thread that tried to make the point that they are not Losers because they have "disposable income', so if they can pay what is wrong with it?

The reality is self-evident, and I hope I can help a few to understand it and to get out it. A man is sufficient for a woman to have good sex. A Loser Fucker, perceives himself as not sufficient reason for a woman to have sex with him as he is, so he is compelled to pay her to obtain a time-slot for sex. It is important for the Loser to evaluate his psychological condition in the moment in which he pays for sex, as at that same time he agrees that he is inferior and he needs to pay her to get something natural. The fact that he has money to pay, money that he loses in higher quantities the more Regular visits the Spa Word, as important as it is, is secondary related to the damage that happens in the Loser self-esteem over a longer period of time. His disposable income decreases through this activity, while his self esteem also decreases. An aspect even more important than money is that the Loser accepts that in one way or another he as sex partner is INFERIOR to the WOMEN he has to pay. In the same time as he pays, he realizes another annoying level of inferiority, inferiority to the normal men that can have sex without needing to pay for it.

So, as a Loser Fucker in the Spa World you get sexual addiction, lose money, and have your self-esteem shattered. Also a very dangerous side effect to the Loser Fucker is that the experiences inside the Spa World affect his ability to get integrated with women and get laid outside of Spa World. This is a consequence of the demand of sex for money, in the Spa World means obtaining sex from the object in first time slot available for him. In the real world, The Loser Fucker will be awkward as he loses the patience in the hunt to obtain a real exclusive relationship with a woman. The more he goes into the Spa World, the more he wants it "hard" and wants it "now", while in the outside world he should want "her"(not an object) after they build a relationship of some sorts. As a consequence, psychologically the "happy" Spa Regular that a few years ago was able to create meaningful relationship outside of the Spa World, he is now incapable to create a relationship outside. This incapacity to get laid outside will increase the more his Loser Fucker self esteem lowers coupled with his loss of patience to the "woman object" that doesn't give him what he wants NOW. As a result of not being able to get anything in the real world, he will come back to the Spa World, to get what he needs for money. A vicious cycle for the Loser Fucker in which his ability to get out of being a Loser decreases the more frequently he returns to the Spa World.

One another important point about the Loser Fuckers that claim they are proud of being "pussy addicted". Also they claim that their life is a happy life. Or that going to the Spa World is a hobby for them. For everyone that reads their enthusiastic descriptions, think about why they want to lure you in the Spa World? If they are so happy, serene, satisfied and proud about what they are doing, why don't they upload their full name and a photo when talking about their "successes". Please read the following link from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-life . As you can see the world outside speaks about prostitutes as low-life and associate them with other felons. So the Loser Fuckers, even if they live in their self-created illusion(this site included in the delusion) in reality "being controlled by the working girls", they notice from time to time that the vast majority of people sees them borderline to low-life, not deserving of respect. So another bad consequence of the Regular Spa Client is that he has to hide and lie, in order that no one knows in his real life what he is up to. I think this puts even more pressure on the Loser Fuckers and they tend to overly beautify their experiences inside the sect in sites like this, so the opinion among their "sect" remains reassuring: we the Loser Fuckers are in control and we live good time with "beauties", "gems" and "ladies". The Loser Fuckers, need a safe space, a group support community, because they are being used and controlled inside the Spa World, so this is why a site like this exists in the first place and promotes so much beautification of a low-life sexual-addicted behavior.

I will only mention one more very important aspect of paid sex. Exclusivity is not possible with paid sex. And exclusivity is hugely important in normal sex relationship. The Loser Fucker doesn't understand that he doesn't get the working girl ever! He only gets a time slot and that time slot is paid pay for. With paid sex only promiscuity is possible. I let you read by yourself how many issues come with promiscuity for both men and women that are promiscuous.

I hope some of you brothers will not go ever into the Spa World. And for the ones that currently go, please read my articles in this thread, and read more outside of this bubble. Maybe you'll want out. For the Regulars, the Loser Fuckers, you will be amazed how much progress and how relieved you will feel, if you don't go to any Spa for a few months, don't respond to any text from any "lady") that you know, you don't consume Porn during this period, you don't read advertisements for sex nor promoter "sex" safe-space forums like this one, massageplanet.

So, for you my brothers with high disposable income, some of you wealthy people, astute business men, don't let yourself be fooled by the Spa World. Don't give them the means to exists and enjoy luxury, while each of you are in the position of a competing for the title who is the Complete Sucker Loser Fucker. Because don't forget, they scan you, and they tap on you very carefully. They will be all smiles and accommodating to you immediately after they smell your money.

Also for you my brothers that earn small income, look at the girls' cars and their expensive accessories. They are richer than you and they laugh at you, big time. They consider you a bad client, and they take your money whatsoever. Better find a healthy outside relationship and put your hard earned money in something that has feelings and good results for you and the normal woman that you build a normal relationship with.

 

[SweetCheeks]

Very well said. We all know what games we are gonna play when we get into this hobby, but when we ran into girls who are very good at this game , we got sucked in, beaten badly and then blame the girls after things fell apart. Most of us have been played and some of us try to play them too. At the end , the better player came out as winners and walked away and the loser felt they have been manipulated. It's you who let them manipulate. The best way to play this game is play with their emotion, tell them what they love to hear, fuck them and dump them when you are still ahead and always make sure you have 2-3 girls in hand at the same time like most of these girls who have 2-3 guys in their pockets all the time.

Thank you both for having a brain
Don't bite off more than you can chew boys

But in all seriousness if you show your vulnerability to a group of sex workers, what are you expecting to happen? Similar to when you go on vacation and try to buy souvenirs from lil stands. If they don't have price tags and you go up and ask like a nervous 11 year old girl how much it costs, you're getting a different answer than the person who asks him with confidence. There are some girls that are players and then there are some girls who don't bullshit so when you see them, you're actually seeing them! Then there are girls who regularly get played.
It's like any other thing, the better manipulator will win.

Or just realize you're not paying for love you're paying for release so why even bother putting yourself in a position to be played? Go to escorts for that

 

[TheNewOldguy]

Years ago I was played and never again will I fall into that trap. I still enjoy the hobby. Its like OLG.
" Know your limit and stay within it"