Question Catching COVID-19 (Omicron)

If you've had covid and have immunity, you personally stand a good chance of not needing the vaccine. But it's still a good idea to get it. Why? Because not everyone's immune response is the same. Someone with a mild infection may have had a weak immune response. Since it is not practical to assess everyone's level of antibodies in order to determine who has a strong immune response, it is easier to just vax everyone. It's an extra--and more importantly uniform and predictable--layer of protection. In short, you do it for the community, not just yourself.

I said ICU numbers are not a good way of gauging vaccine effectiveness and they are not. However they quite obviously are an excellent thing to track when you're concerned about ICU capacity.

A vaccine's purpose and a seatbelt's are ultimately the same. They both aim to minimize death.

Good points, as usual. We obviously have some nuanced perspectives and disagree on others.

I’ll go as far as saying everyone should do their research, assess their risk factors, and get the vaccine accordingly. But I’m completely fine with people, regardless of their risk factors, refusing to get vaccinated. If we don’t have bodily autonomy, what do we have? One day you’ll be forced to do something you don’t want to do.

Anecdotal, but here’s something interesting about natural immunity. I was talking to a friend yesterday that I spent the evening with the night before I had full blown Covid symptoms. I asked her if she ended up getting sick or anything. She said she got nothing. She had Covid last year, probably delta, possibly alpha. Even though I contact traced her at the time, I was very happy she didn’t end up get sick. Very impressive that after a year she was not affected at all. YYMV, though, as we say in here.


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Child, this is exactly the root cause of your temper tantrum. You are mad at your government and leaders because you want to hold them accountable to the dictionary.

One of the reasons why I asked you to read and educate yourself was so you could gain understanding and perspective based on the history of what happened last pandemic.

You are more interested in discussing dictionary terms, and it irritates you that when you look up the word "vaccine" the current vaccine does not meet that definition. I get it, you are a keyboard warrior, a bratty troll after all. You can only process virtual information and lack depth in your ideas and understanding, that is why I know you don't drive a car. You are all theory and no experience.

This pandemic is not about arguing the fucking definition of the word vaccine, if you are so butt hurt about it, take a plane or boat to England and slap the Oxford morons that introduced the word. Before you slap anyone, be aware that, words CONSTANTLY evolve to change in meaning. If the new definition of vaccine becomes "provides immunity OR moderate levels of protection," suck it the fuck up or become a linguist.

Who’s having the tantrum? You’re the one name calling with condescension.


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I love when people say this.

No one promised, except for Fauci, Walensky, Gates (which I never understand why he’s part of the convo) said you wouldn’t get infected, and not spread it.


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There are 13,339 cases reported today. We haven’t dipped under 10k in weeks. Where would you put the percentage of efficacy?


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I would probably not want to admit to trust a politician or use them as your source of information. Or media outlet, talk show host etc. I would hope most people would listen to Biden as much as I do when my 3 yr old is telling me a story.
 
Child, this is exactly the root cause of your temper tantrum. You are mad at your government and leaders because you want to hold them accountable to the dictionary.

One of the reasons why I asked you to read and educate yourself was so you could gain understanding and perspective based on the history of what happened last pandemic.

You are more interested in discussing dictionary terms, and it irritates you that when you look up the word "vaccine" the current vaccine does not meet that definition. I get it, you are a keyboard warrior, a bratty troll after all. You can only process virtual information and lack depth in your ideas and understanding, that is why I know you don't drive a car. You are all theory and no experience.

This pandemic is not about arguing the fucking definition of the word vaccine, if you are so butt hurt about it, take a plane or boat to England and slap the Oxford morons that introduced the word. Before you slap anyone, be aware that, words CONSTANTLY evolve to change in meaning. If the new definition of vaccine becomes "provides immunity OR moderate levels of protection," suck it the fuck up or become a linguist.

Who’s having the tantrum? You’re the one name calling with condescension.

I love the fact that you acknowledge that they had to change the definition of the word vaccine to encompass the leaky Covid vaccines.


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I would probably not want to admit to trust a politician or use them as your source of information. Or media outlet, talk show host etc. I would hope most people would listen to Biden as much as I do when my 3 yr old is telling me a story.

Agreed, but Fauci is the director of NIAID and the Chief Medical Advisor to the President and Walensky is the director of the CDC. They are not talk show hosts and media outlets.

I’m assuming you didn’t watch the video of them saying the same thing as Biden.


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Child, this is exactly the root cause of your temper tantrum. You are mad at your government and leaders because you want to hold them accountable to the dictionary.

You are more interested in discussing dictionary terms, and it irritates you that when you look up the word "vaccine" the current vaccine does not meet that definition. I get it, you are a keyboard warrior, a bratty troll after all.

This pandemic is not about arguing the fucking definition of the word vaccine, if you are so butt hurt about it, take a plane or boat to England and slap the Oxford morons that introduced the word. Before you slap anyone, be aware that, words CONSTANTLY evolve to change in meaning. If the new definition of vaccine becomes "provides immunity OR moderate levels of protection," suck it the fuck up or become a linguist.

We’re not discussing the pandemic here. We’re discussing the efficacy of the vaccine. If you have to change the definition of a word, the original meaning of that word is lost.

The Covid vaccine is not a vaccine, by decades old definition. It may be a therapeutic, medicine, or may even be a placebo . But we know it’s not a placebo because it has killed thousands. Definitively, though, it is not a vaccine. Vaccines offer immunity, not just protection.

I know that’s bothersome, and may be nitpicking, but that’s the truth.


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This pandemic is not about arguing the fucking definition of the word vaccine, if you are so butt hurt about it, take a plane or boat to England and slap the Oxford morons that introduced the word. Before you slap anyone, be aware that, words CONSTANTLY evolve to change in meaning. If the new definition of vaccine becomes "provides immunity OR moderate levels of protection," suck it the fuck up or become a linguist.

The CDC changed the definition.


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Why are the Ontario ICU and hospitalization numbers so difficult to find? It seems the government and media don't want you to see them
Google Ontario Covid Hospitalizations
If you scroll down to the ICU pie chart, you will see that, for the first time, the vaccinated outnumber the unvaccinated. If this trend continues, the number will increase next week.
All there graphs and charts omit the unknown which a significant number and from my understanding are all vaccinated.
 
Child, this is exactly the root cause of your temper tantrum. You are mad at your government and leaders because you want to hold them accountable to the dictionary.

You are more interested in discussing dictionary terms, and it irritates you that when you look up the word "vaccine" the current vaccine does not meet that definition. I get it, you are a keyboard warrior, a bratty troll after all.

This pandemic is not about arguing the fucking definition of the word vaccine, if you are so butt hurt about it, take a plane or boat to England and slap the Oxford morons that introduced the word. Before you slap anyone, be aware that, words CONSTANTLY evolve to change in meaning. If the new definition of vaccine becomes "provides immunity OR moderate levels of protection," suck it the fuck up or become a linguist.
A cunning linguist
 
This pandemic is not about arguing the fucking definition of the word vaccine, if you are so butt hurt about it, take a plane or boat to England and slap the Oxford morons that introduced the word. Before you slap anyone, be aware that, words CONSTANTLY evolve to change in meaning. If the new definition of vaccine becomes "provides immunity OR moderate levels of protection," suck it the fuck up or become a linguist.
You make me sad…lol
 
Brother, I am glad you asked this question and I am happy to share with you my understanding on the matter.

Fact:
Viruses are not alive. Viruses "become" alive when they "bond" with a compatible host cell. Each virus is compatible with a different kind of cell. For example, we have stomach flu, a virus that affects the digestive tract cells. It can only bind with certain cells in the digestive tract.

COVID is a respiratory virus, it can only bind with certain cells found in our respiratory system such as lungs and throat.

Fact:
You cannot be INFECTED by COVID if you eat it or touch it. You could shove a handful of COVID up Jimmy the Retard's ass, and he wouldn't get (be infected by) COVID.

You could also dip Jimmy the Retard's hand, foot or any other of his tiny appendixes into a bucket of COVID and it wouldn't infect him.

You will only get infected by COVID if the COVID virus gets into your respiratory system AND binds with a host cell.

Do you follow me so far?

Viruses can lay inactive for different periods of time on top of surfaces like door handles, tables etc... They are not "alive" at this point. They are more or less "inactive."

During these periods of inactivity they could travel through the air, or on top of surfaces like your hands. I don't know how long the COVID virus can travel while "inactive" but what I do know is that the majority of viruses sort of "die off" after a certain period of inactivity without reaching a "COMPATIBLE HOST" to "BIND" with.

FACT:

When a virus, in this case COVID binds with a compatible host cell in the respiratory system, it goes into "reproductive" mode. It has only one mission, and that is to replicate itself over and over and over again. This is when you are INFECTED. You are not INFECTED just because you are "carrying" the virus.

A fucking coffee cup can be a "carrier" or any physical object such as a human hand etc.. Just because the coffee cup has COVID viruses all over it is not "INFECTED"

Do you understand the word infected so far?

Once a person is infected they become "COVID FACTORIES" and because of EVERYONE's ability to physically carry the virus, they are also "transporters." It's a COVID factory on wheels. This is why people with a higher likelihood of becoming infected are logically the problem. Does this make sense to you? Each new infection brings forth a new generation of viruses and mutations.

This is why vaccination makes sense, it doesn't stop you from carrying the virus, it prevents you from getting "INFECTED." Granted that this is not 100% which idiots like Jimmy the Retard will quickly point out, but what is the logical alternative? To let everyone get COVID and have people piling up dead on the streets like in the 1920s and the Spanish Flu?

Do you understand the difference between a "carrier" and an "infection." The media is probably wrongfully explaining what the fuck a carrier is, it's just a container. Containers are not a big deal, the problem are the COVID factories.

You don't have to be infected to be a carrier, so yes that means people vaccinated can be carriers too. But you can only become a COVID factory if you are infected.

Fact.
The covid shot is a best guess " vaccine ". If you had covid and survived you body has immunity. The vaccinated people have a far greater chance of re infection due to the virus has varied and your vaccine is no longer able to identify it to fight it off. People who survive have shown to carry antibodies for over 50 years and they can identify the virus better than the manmade vaccine. Our bodies are engineered better than man can figure out, that is if you took care of yourself.
 
If the government mandates for boosters to be taken then I will take them. IF I don't like it then I will move to another country that doesn't require them.

I will very likely not bitch about it on the internet. You just said you would not dare to tell your parents not to take the vaccine, but you cannot see the benefit for yourself.

You are a hypocrite and a coward. Do you even drive a car? Answer me honestly. NO judgement in my part.

If you don't take the booster then you are unvaccinated and you can't fly. You are a prisoner in your own country.
 

This doctor is not fear mongering. There are no guarantees other than death and taxes. Live your life.
 
Despite abundant evidence that vaccines don't prevent infection, the brain-dead Turdo insists they do and wants to make them mandatory for everyone in Canada.


Not in Alberta.
 
This pandemic is not about arguing the fucking definition of the word vaccine, if you are so butt hurt about it, take a plane or boat to England and slap the Oxford morons that introduced the word. Before you slap anyone, be aware that, words CONSTANTLY evolve to change in meaning. If the new definition of vaccine becomes "provides immunity OR moderate levels of protection," suck it the fuck up or become a linguist.
Dude you need to take a chill pill. jimmyd is right in what he says. The Pfizer BioNTech, the Moderna shots are not vaccines. And changing a dictionary definition to make it seem like they are vaccines is tomfoolery. Alarming to say the least.
 
The amount of stupidity in this thread can probably be harnessed to give us energy to power this city for 50 years
 
The baseless anti-vax bullshit being spewed on this thread will not change the FACT that vax has worked to lessen the burden on the health system.
if less than 80/90 percent of us weren’t vaxed we’d be in much bigger shit and more severe lockdowns that we are in today (vaxed outnumber unvaxed by 8/9 to 1 but the ratio of unvaxed to vaxed that have been hospitalized is way less than that)

The minority of unvaxed benefit tremendously from the vaxed and still, some idiots try to make excuses for avoiding vax -shame on you. You don’t want to take, don’t take it , but please shut the fuck up because you have absolutely no facts to stand on.
So you're saying Robert Malone the investor of the MRNA is wrong? lol He has patents with the MRNA, no he didn't creator civid vaccine, but he himself has recommended not to get it. And the science has the spiked protein is only in the blood. It doesn't protect you from getting covid because the upper respiratory track.
 
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    AMORE SPA 127 Westmore Drive, Unit 106C Etobicoke, ON M9V 3Y6 ☎ 437-688-2407 ☎ Sunday at AMORE SPA: CHERRY & MIA. CHERRY is a proven superstar, Slim Asian with a pretty face, all natural A or B Cups, long nipples, slim waist & small round bum. Her services are legendary. MIA is a young 27 JAPANESE girl, curvy, good massage bbj cim, nice and open minded.
  34. Sparkling Spa:
    ⚡🌟SPARKLING SPA⚡🌟 ✅50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8✅ 👌Markham, ON L3R 8X4👌 ☎️ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Line☎️ ☎️ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phone☎️ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥SUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥SEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Today’s Schedule is…🔥 Emily🔥A sweet shy Korean executive secretary with a passion for pleasing. Excellen
  35. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at 𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗖𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟮𝟵𝟴-𝟬𝟴𝟵𝟴:[/color] 4 Amazingly Hot Top Girls Today at Alice Spa: AMY is a young, petite short & slim Taiwanese, former dance instructor, firm natural B Cups, pretty face, firm natural titis, super play good, bbbj, cim, rim, dfk, all services. *New Today, ASHLEY is a curvy Half Indian/Half Chinese, super busty FF Cups, young student, pretty face
  36. Sunrise Health Centre:
    🫦 Noor🔥is here Today! 📞📲 (647) 325-8086 💦 We have Hot & Sexy Girls Every Day. 💋 They all do Extra Services & are Very Open-Minded ~ Drop In Anytime 🚶‍♀️🚶➡️ Walk-Ins Are Always Welcome! Unit 27, 10 East Wilmot Street, Richmond Hill
  37. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Connie , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Sasa,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .☎️4379857899👄👄🦵🦵🈵🈵👅👅
  38. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : New Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Shasa,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,🏠 address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2☎️4376655510 🦵🦵👄👄🈵🈵👅👅
  39. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at 🫦❤️🔴🟥♾️𝓕𝓞𝓡𝓔𝓥𝓔𝓡 𝓢𝓟𝓐♾️🟥🔴❤️🫦2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough 𝟰𝟭𝟲-𝟴𝟬𝟬-𝟳𝟴𝟴𝟳: Anida, Lisa & Cindy. Anida is a slim Asian babe with a small waist and great bum. Anida has excellent massage, oral and other skills. Lisa is a young, slim, friendly & very beautiful Vietnamese beauty with a nice body, nice 34D boobs, slim waist, impressive booty, nice massage, great services.
  40. Jenny’s Spa:
    🎉🍒JENNY’S SPA🎉🍒 ✅5170 DUNDAS STREET WEST✅ 👌ETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4👌 ☎️( 647-893-5196)☎️Call or Text ☎️( 437-888-3759)☎️Call Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅GRAND OPENING💯NEW GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥EXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNY’S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS🔥💯😘🔥❤️👌 🔥TWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY🔥 💯REAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS💯 🔥TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny😘 - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  41. ASPA:
    𝗦𝗨𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗔𝗧 𝗔 𝗦𝗣𝗔: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] 🅰️𝐀 𝐒𝐏𝐀🅰️, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. 🅰️𝗖𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟳𝟮𝟵-𝟲𝟲𝟬𝟲 𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝟲𝟰𝟳-𝟴𝟯𝟵-𝟱𝟵𝟲𝟲🅰️ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is slim and attractive
  42. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at 🌴😎🌅𝓗𝓸𝓵𝓲𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝓢𝓹𝓪🌅😎🌴3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough ☎️𝟰𝟯𝟳-𝟮𝟰𝟳-𝟭𝟭𝟵𝟵☎️Amy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Don’t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. 🌴😎🌅HOLIDAY SPA🌅😎🌴
  43. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young beautiful girls are working today, young cute Lily 25’s with curive body open mind and young slime Slime 30’s, pretty GFE Ella and sexy Coco are providing deep tissue and sensual massage, pls call 416-3985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome, back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  44. Annie Spa:
    🎉🍒ANNIE SPA🎉🍒 ✅7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLE✅ 👌SCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6👌 ☎️ (647) 891-9688☎️ ☎️ (416) 291-8879☎️ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY 🔥✅NEW MANAGEMENT💯NEW GIRLS🔥🔥 🔥GORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAY’s ROSTER INCLUDES: 🔥 Helen🥰Brand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  45. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at ❤️💙 💜⎝𝗦𝗨𝗚𝗔𝗥 𝗟𝗢𝗩𝗘 𝗦𝗣𝗔⎠💖💗💘: ANA, LANA & SHAYLA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5’1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. LANA is a slim & sexy Indian girl. SHAYLA is a very sexy Vietnamese lady, slim and beautiful
  46. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 8 hot brown girls today 🌸 ASHA, MALIYA, PEET, NISHA, ANNA, DIYA, MIMI 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa ♨️♨️♨️table shower 👍👍👍👍👍body scrub🌹🌹🌹🌹5124 Dundas W Etobicoke ☎️416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica 😘can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  48. See You Health Center:
    Sami Gorgeous Model Type Vietnamese School Girl Lin Very Young, Petite
Vietnamese Student
With Spicy Slim Body
5’ 1”, 100 lbs Blonde Hair
Great BBJ, CIM Suki From Taiwan, sweet girl Sexy tight body amazing C cups with Those incredible nipples ☎️416-988-2950
  49. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Bella She is Mexican Gorgeous face Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite school girl
GFE, BBbj, DFK in her menu. Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl ☎️647- 446-0886
  50. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek : For Sunday November 17, 2024, our attendants will be Ada 🥰, Cici 😍, Lucy ❤️, Ivy 😘 and Christina 🔥 We have a great lineup for tomorrow! Call 905-479-6668 to book!
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