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if you want a place to try 416-617-7999 tell Jessica your a friend of David and they will make you happy i have been going there or awhile lately been to many places
 
Part of the allure of the legit scene is that you may be surprised. Key word is may be. But if you go in there asking for something the first time - youโ€™ll most likely be shown the door. It is a delicate game of cat and mouse it seems. Thatโ€™s why if a legit girl asks for tips it is weird. Maybe she works at another place that is more liberal too and she is picking it up from there. Who knows. But I do know itโ€™s a buzz kill.

It very rarely happens at the fully legit spas. This is definitely more of a semi-legit thing. This convo isnโ€™t only about the tip situation though. The yelling, disorganization, rushing, basic lack of preparedness seems to be more widespread.

Another exampleโ€ฆ. I went to a place in Markham yesterday to check if someone was there working. I just dropped by because I had a tip. I stood in the lobby, alone, for probably 3-4 minutes. It was silent in there. It was also very unappealing and messy. I decided to give the door another open/close so the chime went. Then two ladies, significantly different than described came out all flustered, maybe just woke up, and I asked if there was a girl there on her first day. The response was โ€œWe are both new girls!โ€ I said ok, Iโ€™m looking for (description). They said โ€œno, but we are both NEW and come stay!โ€ It was comical but I politely declined, wished them well and went kn my way. I have the feeling that they didnโ€™t even know their own names in the spa. Anyway, would have been nice to talk to someone who knew what was going on there.
if the place is not clean i leave i do not carry who works there
 
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You are right. It is just sad that it is this way now because it didnโ€™t used to be. I do feel for the women and the fact they have been burned. And it angers me that cheap dinks have made this situation so. That being said, knowing itโ€™s a new girl, it still does kill the mood for me, even if I know itโ€™s coming. I donโ€™t think that will ever change. Being understanding of their situation and all, and them not knowing me and not willing to take that chanceโ€ฆ. I get it.

I just canโ€™t get it up after that.

I guess there will always be cheap asses who try to get more for less. Itโ€™s just upsetting it has happened so much that this is the result.
So why donโ€™t u tip before the massage? I do that with new girls
 
the extras you want are pretty standard it all depends on what you look for ? do you like to see the same ladies or try others every time.?
 
So why donโ€™t u tip before the massage? I do that with new girls


I touched on this but I know it is a lot to read. Many places I go are more legit than semi. Offering a legit girl a tip beforehand will signal I am expecting something more than massage. I prefer to let the chemistry dictate where the massage goes, and I feel that in that situation, it will come across as pushy and will hurt the session. It is a delicate game I guess. If it is a new girl I definitely give them a great tip, regardless of the outcome, so they do know that when I come back they don't have to worry. I just remember when you didnt need to worry about being asked all the time to tip big, even in legit settings.
 
the extras you want are pretty standard it all depends on what you look for ? do you like to see the same ladies or try others every time.?

I will see a lady often if she is good. But sometimes I am looking for new talents as well.
 
I understand you , Itโ€™s a catch 22. But Iโ€™d rather pay first and to hell with expectations she may or may not think about. It is a troubling trend though.really is no answer but to not return to theses spas
 
I think that is really is a COVID fallout. I think once the girls are on their feet again financially maybe there will be a switch back to providing good service. Who knows though, maybe I'm just too old school and it will continue to be all about the money.

What I can say is, guys who make it a thing to try to get extras and not pay going rate for them.... you guys are assholes. Plain and simple. Not only are you hurting the girls and making yourself look pathetic, you are ruining experiences for others.
 
I think that is really is a COVID fallout. I think once the girls are on their feet again financially maybe there will be a switch back to providing good service. Who knows though, maybe I'm just too old school and it will continue to be all about the money.

What I can say is, guys who make it a thing to try to get extras and not pay going rate for them.... you guys are assholes. Plain and simple. Not only are you hurting the girls and making yourself look pathetic, you are ruining experiences for others.
agreed its a hard call plus it depend on what you want a massage or play time
 
i am very picky do not like many places or ladies. i like a great massage and great dessert. but i do multiple hours never a 30 min massage
most days on new staff i book 60 min per lady and as many working that day up to 6 ladies.
 
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i am very picky do not like many places or ladies. i like a great massage and great dessert. but i do multiple hours never a 30 min massage
most days on new staff i book 60 min per lady and as many working that day up to 6 ladies.
my average booking day is 4 hours
 
Another exampleโ€ฆ. I went to a place in Markham yesterday to check if someone was there working. I just dropped by because I had a tip. I stood in the lobby, alone, for probably 3-4 minutes. It was silent in there. It was also very unappealing and messy. I decided to give the door another open/close so the chime went. Then two ladies, significantly different than described came out all flustered, maybe just woke up, and I asked if there was a girl there on her first day. The response was โ€œWe are both new girls!โ€ I said ok, Iโ€™m looking for (description). They said โ€œno, but we are both NEW and come stay!โ€ It was comical but I politely declined, wished them well and went kn my way. I have the feeling that they didnโ€™t even know their own names in the spa. Anyway, would have been nice to talk to someone who knew what was going on there.
C'mon, you are exaggerating a bit too much here. There are lots of reviews about Golden Rose Water as a clean and very friendly place. The spa is less than one yr old. I have been there numerous times, never seen messy and always nice and clean. The two girls you met were Mena and Eliza who were well reviewed here. May be the boss Maggie was not there at the time you were there, otherwise she is at the reception desk all the time and well known as the most friendliest lady who can direct you to the right girl.
The cute girl you are looking for Elaine will be definitely there this coming Tuesday. She was planning to be there last Tuesday but she has something came up and couldn't make it.

Just read the review on post #600... It mentioned the spa is very nice and clean..

 
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C'mon, you are exaggerating a bit too much here. There are lots of reviews about Golden Rose Water as a clean and very friendly place. The spa is less than one yr old. I have been there numerous times, never seen messy and always nice and clean. The two girls you met were Mena and Eliza who were well reviewed here. May be the boss Maggie was not there at the time you were there, otherwise she is at the reception desk all the time and well known as the most friendliest lady who can direct you to the right girl.
The girl you are looking for Elaine will be definitely there this coming Tuesday. She was planning to be there last Tuesday but she has something came up and couldn't make it.

Just read the review on post #600... It mentioned the spa is nice and clean..



I didnt name the spa KJ. I didnt because I didnt want to affect any spa in particulars business with my postings here. It was a general observation of the scene, and I used my real experience as an example, but withheld the names for that purpose.

I understand your affiliation with certain spa's and that is totally fine. You are really good at what you do and I for one do appreciate the info you provide. But, being honest, I have nothing to gain by exaggerating anything. I wont go into detail here defending my experience or observation, for the same reason as I stated before.... I am not out to hurt any spa. Nobody gains anything by that. Ill message you privately instead
 
I didnt name the spa KJ. I didnt because I didnt want to affect any spa in particulars business with my postings here. It was a general observation of the scene, and I used my real experience as an example, but withheld the names for that purpose.

I understand your affiliation with certain spa's and that is totally fine. You are really good at what you do and I for one do appreciate the info you provide. But, being honest, I have nothing to gain by exaggerating anything. I wont go into detail here defending my experience or observation, for the same reason as I stated before.... I am not out to hurt any spa. Nobody gains anything by that. Ill message you privately instead

If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics ๐Ÿ™‚. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
 
Everyone does have different expectations for sure. Thats ok. Also peoples opinions may differ. Thats also ok.

Not going to go into anything more or less.
 
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Everyone does have different expectations for sure. Thats ok. Also peoples opinions may differ. Thats also ok.

Not going to go into anything more or less.
Small spas rarely have receptnโ€ฆ they have other advantagesโ€ฆ if no boss around, girls can b really fun! :heart4

โ€ฆ sneaky way 2c all girlsโ€ฆ dont let them rush u in2 rmโ€ฆ ask questions, start 2 leaveโ€ฆ boom, another face appears! They tend 2 take turns, or one girl (younger, prettier) gets all the bizโ€ฆ pickng less pretty girl gets u most mileage usually
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I understand 100%. What Iโ€™m saying is, even those places you listed, are changing. I didnโ€™t name any. Your list can be used as an example though. More than one of those Iโ€™ve experienced what I mentioned. Multiple times. Thatโ€™s what Iโ€™m getting at.


even those places you listed, are changing

I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
 
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    โšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸSPARKLING SPAโšก๏ธ๐ŸŒŸ โœ…50 Lockridge Ave Unit 8โœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒMarkham, ON L3R 8X4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 604-8186 Spa Land Lineโ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (437) 446-6688 NEW Spa Cell Phoneโ˜Ž๏ธ (West of Warden & 16th Ave) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅSUPERSTAR SERVICE QUEENS AVAILABLE AT SPARKLING SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅSEXY NEW YOUNG GIRLS ALWAYS WORKING - Todayโ€™s Schedule isโ€ฆ๐Ÿ”ฅ Zoe - ๐Ÿ”ฅStunning Tall Taiwanese Service Queen with Endless Passion and Sensuality w
  32. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Helen , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  33. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Michelle,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  34. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅTODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: Jenny๐Ÿ˜˜ - An exotic tall and slim Vietn
  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Today๐ŸŒธYoYo๐ŸŒธBrandy๐ŸŒธLynda๐ŸŒธHellen Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  39. ASPA:
    ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—ก๐——๐—”๐—ฌ ๐—”๐—ง ๐—” ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”: EMMA and Best Massage RACHEL.[/color] ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐€ ๐’๐๐€๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ, 28 South Unionville Ave, Unit 5, Markham. ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ๐—–๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฒ๐˜…๐˜ ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿต-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿต๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿ…ฐ๏ธ EMMA is 1.64Cm. and weighs 52Kg. Emma is sweet and elegant, has very good communication & massage, and her services will make your visit enjoyable. RACHEL is a slim and attractive
  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
    ๐ŸŒธ We have 13 hot brown girls today ๐ŸŒธ ASHA, MALIYA, PREET, KIRAN, ANNA, NISHA, SALMA, SABHA ๐ŸŒธ 2588 Birchmount ๐ŸŒธ 2 Invergordon ๐ŸŒธ 647-702-8800 ๐ŸŒธ Please visit for a great erotic massage
  45. Bnblover:
    This chat is something. So no one believes Markkk
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    This chat is something
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey