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if you want a place to try 416-617-7999 tell Jessica your a friend of David and they will make you happy i have been going there or awhile lately been to many places
 
Part of the allure of the legit scene is that you may be surprised. Key word is may be. But if you go in there asking for something the first time - you’ll most likely be shown the door. It is a delicate game of cat and mouse it seems. That’s why if a legit girl asks for tips it is weird. Maybe she works at another place that is more liberal too and she is picking it up from there. Who knows. But I do know it’s a buzz kill.

It very rarely happens at the fully legit spas. This is definitely more of a semi-legit thing. This convo isn’t only about the tip situation though. The yelling, disorganization, rushing, basic lack of preparedness seems to be more widespread.

Another example…. I went to a place in Markham yesterday to check if someone was there working. I just dropped by because I had a tip. I stood in the lobby, alone, for probably 3-4 minutes. It was silent in there. It was also very unappealing and messy. I decided to give the door another open/close so the chime went. Then two ladies, significantly different than described came out all flustered, maybe just woke up, and I asked if there was a girl there on her first day. The response was “We are both new girls!” I said ok, I’m looking for (description). They said “no, but we are both NEW and come stay!” It was comical but I politely declined, wished them well and went kn my way. I have the feeling that they didn’t even know their own names in the spa. Anyway, would have been nice to talk to someone who knew what was going on there.
if the place is not clean i leave i do not carry who works there
 
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You are right. It is just sad that it is this way now because it didn’t used to be. I do feel for the women and the fact they have been burned. And it angers me that cheap dinks have made this situation so. That being said, knowing it’s a new girl, it still does kill the mood for me, even if I know it’s coming. I don’t think that will ever change. Being understanding of their situation and all, and them not knowing me and not willing to take that chance…. I get it.

I just can’t get it up after that.

I guess there will always be cheap asses who try to get more for less. It’s just upsetting it has happened so much that this is the result.
So why don’t u tip before the massage? I do that with new girls
 
the extras you want are pretty standard it all depends on what you look for ? do you like to see the same ladies or try others every time.?
 
So why don’t u tip before the massage? I do that with new girls


I touched on this but I know it is a lot to read. Many places I go are more legit than semi. Offering a legit girl a tip beforehand will signal I am expecting something more than massage. I prefer to let the chemistry dictate where the massage goes, and I feel that in that situation, it will come across as pushy and will hurt the session. It is a delicate game I guess. If it is a new girl I definitely give them a great tip, regardless of the outcome, so they do know that when I come back they don't have to worry. I just remember when you didnt need to worry about being asked all the time to tip big, even in legit settings.
 
the extras you want are pretty standard it all depends on what you look for ? do you like to see the same ladies or try others every time.?

I will see a lady often if she is good. But sometimes I am looking for new talents as well.
 
I understand you , It’s a catch 22. But I’d rather pay first and to hell with expectations she may or may not think about. It is a troubling trend though.really is no answer but to not return to theses spas
 
I think that is really is a COVID fallout. I think once the girls are on their feet again financially maybe there will be a switch back to providing good service. Who knows though, maybe I'm just too old school and it will continue to be all about the money.

What I can say is, guys who make it a thing to try to get extras and not pay going rate for them.... you guys are assholes. Plain and simple. Not only are you hurting the girls and making yourself look pathetic, you are ruining experiences for others.
 
I think that is really is a COVID fallout. I think once the girls are on their feet again financially maybe there will be a switch back to providing good service. Who knows though, maybe I'm just too old school and it will continue to be all about the money.

What I can say is, guys who make it a thing to try to get extras and not pay going rate for them.... you guys are assholes. Plain and simple. Not only are you hurting the girls and making yourself look pathetic, you are ruining experiences for others.
agreed its a hard call plus it depend on what you want a massage or play time
 
i am very picky do not like many places or ladies. i like a great massage and great dessert. but i do multiple hours never a 30 min massage
most days on new staff i book 60 min per lady and as many working that day up to 6 ladies.
 
i am very picky do not like many places or ladies. i like a great massage and great dessert. but i do multiple hours never a 30 min massage
most days on new staff i book 60 min per lady and as many working that day up to 6 ladies.
my average booking day is 4 hours
 
if you want a place to try 416-617-7999 tell Jessica your a friend of David and they will make you happy i have been going there or awhile lately been to many places


Who/where is this?
 
Another example…. I went to a place in Markham yesterday to check if someone was there working. I just dropped by because I had a tip. I stood in the lobby, alone, for probably 3-4 minutes. It was silent in there. It was also very unappealing and messy. I decided to give the door another open/close so the chime went. Then two ladies, significantly different than described came out all flustered, maybe just woke up, and I asked if there was a girl there on her first day. The response was “We are both new girls!” I said ok, I’m looking for (description). They said “no, but we are both NEW and come stay!” It was comical but I politely declined, wished them well and went kn my way. I have the feeling that they didn’t even know their own names in the spa. Anyway, would have been nice to talk to someone who knew what was going on there.
C'mon, you are exaggerating a bit too much here. There are lots of reviews about Golden Rose Water as a clean and very friendly place. The spa is less than one yr old. I have been there numerous times, never seen messy and always nice and clean. The two girls you met were Mena and Eliza who were well reviewed here. May be the boss Maggie was not there at the time you were there, otherwise she is at the reception desk all the time and well known as the most friendliest lady who can direct you to the right girl.
The cute girl you are looking for Elaine will be definitely there this coming Tuesday. She was planning to be there last Tuesday but she has something came up and couldn't make it.

Just read the review on post #600... It mentioned the spa is very nice and clean..

 
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C'mon, you are exaggerating a bit too much here. There are lots of reviews about Golden Rose Water as a clean and very friendly place. The spa is less than one yr old. I have been there numerous times, never seen messy and always nice and clean. The two girls you met were Mena and Eliza who were well reviewed here. May be the boss Maggie was not there at the time you were there, otherwise she is at the reception desk all the time and well known as the most friendliest lady who can direct you to the right girl.
The girl you are looking for Elaine will be definitely there this coming Tuesday. She was planning to be there last Tuesday but she has something came up and couldn't make it.

Just read the review on post #600... It mentioned the spa is nice and clean..



I didnt name the spa KJ. I didnt because I didnt want to affect any spa in particulars business with my postings here. It was a general observation of the scene, and I used my real experience as an example, but withheld the names for that purpose.

I understand your affiliation with certain spa's and that is totally fine. You are really good at what you do and I for one do appreciate the info you provide. But, being honest, I have nothing to gain by exaggerating anything. I wont go into detail here defending my experience or observation, for the same reason as I stated before.... I am not out to hurt any spa. Nobody gains anything by that. Ill message you privately instead
 
I didnt name the spa KJ. I didnt because I didnt want to affect any spa in particulars business with my postings here. It was a general observation of the scene, and I used my real experience as an example, but withheld the names for that purpose.

I understand your affiliation with certain spa's and that is totally fine. You are really good at what you do and I for one do appreciate the info you provide. But, being honest, I have nothing to gain by exaggerating anything. I wont go into detail here defending my experience or observation, for the same reason as I stated before.... I am not out to hurt any spa. Nobody gains anything by that. Ill message you privately instead

If it's the spa KJ is talking about, I have to agree with him here. It's new and clean. Yeah, any small place with only 2 girls might get disorganized from time to time (especially with new girls coming and going) but it's no big deal. Maybe your expectations are too high...you shouldn't be comparing these spas to legit clinics 🙂. As I'm sure you know, most are run by ex-MPAs trying their best...
 
Everyone does have different expectations for sure. Thats ok. Also peoples opinions may differ. Thats also ok.

Not going to go into anything more or less.
 
Everyone does have different expectations for sure. Thats ok. Also peoples opinions may differ. Thats also ok.

Not going to go into anything more or less.
Small spas rarely have receptn… they have other advantages… if no boss around, girls can b really fun! :heart4

… sneaky way 2c all girls… dont let them rush u in2 rm… ask questions, start 2 leave… boom, another face appears! They tend 2 take turns, or one girl (younger, prettier) gets all the biz… pickng less pretty girl gets u most mileage usually
;)
 
I understand 100%. What I’m saying is, even those places you listed, are changing. I didn’t name any. Your list can be used as an example though. More than one of those I’ve experienced what I mentioned. Multiple times. That’s what I’m getting at.


even those places you listed, are changing

I have recently posted on towards other spas and had mentioned both SL and EM. A guy dm's me saying the ongoing arrogance of Renee. I do believe she was offering fs earlier this year, for whatever reasons, according to a friend. Some were saying a breakup may be the cause but he also said one time in the rear door room, both Renee and Lucy were there. Lucy said she had a rough night as she was laying on the bed and could hardly lift her head off pillow, like she was on a binge of some sort.
 
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