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The only change I see in the whores today is they all believe they are really something very special and they all believe they are ENTITLED to top dollars for shitty service , and they all really do seem to believe they are something special , just take a pass through Twitter is there a good looking women in the world that isnโ€™t a whore in some shape or form ? Lol
 
Has anyone else noticed a changing of the guard as far as service in spas? Ill specifically point out the semi-legit to semi-holistic range. I dont ever seek out any other type of spa so I can't comment on the service there.

By service, I don't mean what you get as far as extras go for what amount of $. To me that is between the MP and the client. By "service" I mean the experience from when you walk in the door. Before, say 5-10 years ago, there used to be a receptionist who greeted you. For a walk in, would let you know who is available and show you kindly to your room. Then in would come the attendant, and once the door closed, full attention paid to the client. The kinks would be worked out on the table, both massage and otherwise. Money would be exchanged like this : tip to the girl, who would be grateful and who had not discussed tips before or during. It was just understood. The room fee would be paid to the receptionist. Pleasantries exchanged, maybe a bottle of water on the way out, and a spring in your step and smile on your face.

Those were the good old days.

Typically, from my own experience lately, most (not all) of my visits tend to go like this --> Open the door to an empty reception area. Some yelling in back, not in english (which is fine, the language, but to an english speaker it sounds quite aggressive and abrupt. ) Then someone comes running out, putting a mask on like they are surprised someone is there. Then comes the rush into the room. Well, as a walk in, I like to know who is available before I remove my shoes, so I can decide whether or not I am going to stay. Lately, this question seems to perplex the attendants. I understand that COVID and closures have hurt business, and maybe staff cuts as far as receptionists have occurred. But, I think it is important to have someone to greet the client, whether it is taking turns during the day or whatever. In the room, I feel like there is far more yelling between MPA,s through the doors... probably because of a lack of receptionist or maybe lack of direction or scheduling. Nobody to keep track. This really, and I mean really starts things off on the wrong foot for me. This is supposed to be a relaxing event in my day. This is why I choose legit-semilegit.... the massage matters to me. Lately it seems to be lost.

Then we come to the biggest turn off for me of all time. Talking tips. I have had it even happen at LEGIT places lately. What is going on? Are guys not tipping? Are they tipping way too much? I have always tipped very well, but within the regular scope of what is expected, so this question bothers me more than you can imagine. Again, financial hardship due to closures and shut downs are definitely a thing, I understand that completely. But, as I am sure I am not the only one who feels like this, it may be fair to say that it could actually hurt business in the long run. Asking for tips, or suggesting big tips, while still face down receiving a mediocre massage, or at any time during the experience really.... just kills it IMHO.

Now lets be real, COVID threw us all for a loop. I do feel for spa owners. I know they are doing their best to find good staff after losing some to their home countries, to fear or the virus, or just to change in lifestyles. There is definitely more turn around than ever before. New talent needs time to procure their skills and find out what the business is about. But the owner/manager/mamasan should really make a good effort to sit down and go over the do's/don'ts and expectations. They need to realize that not every guy who comes into a semi-holistic is there for a bodyslide. Some guys just want a good massage, release, and want to try somewhere different, and or someone new. Not everyone who goes in for a car wash gets a full wax and detail. Not everyone who goes out for dinner wishes to have apps, drinks and dessert.

Sometimes they want the basics, they know that going in and attempts to upsell are the equivalent to haggling for cheaper services. They are not the same thing. I do not want anything besides a HJ because in my brain, it is what I can handle as far as guilt and risk. I dont want to kiss anyone. I dont want DATY. I dont want any mouth on me anywhere. Thats why I choose legit to semi legit. Occasionally semi-holistic to see a girl who would just be easy on the eyes for a change. I don't think that I should be basically forced into paying for those things, when I dont want them, but am willing to pay going rate (more if the experience is good too) for the basics. Why are the demands for tips and expectations of higher mileage creeping down into the semi-legit range? I guess it could be a shift due to the pandemic. Or I guess it could be lack of education or instruction from the owners/managers. Or it could just be me losing touch with the industry that is changing as many things do, into a realm of more sex shop even in the legit and semi lane.

I know I will most likely get blasted by some, but I have a feeling that some may feel the same way. To an experienced hobbier of 20 years or so, most places at the moment are in a "puppy-mill:" routine, with new girls all the time, new to the business, little to no skill, revolving door, and told that extras get you $$$. Maybe I am old fashioned (though I'm not old by any means) and maybe this hobby is just not for me anymore. But out of the 5 last visits I have had in a semi-legit (1 semi-holistic) setting.... the turn-offs were always present except once. I lost my excitement each time and left feeling way more frustrated than when I entered. On the flipside, a legit place has been having me borderline exploding, without any expectation or chat about extras because they dont do it. So maybe that has to be my lane from now on, as it seems to be catering to my expectations far more.

I know it is a long read, and I dont expect people who will comment, if any, to read the whole thing... but I just had to vent a little. No I will not name any spa's or any girls. Please dont ask. Im not here to point fingers, but I do want any owner or attendant who reads this to maybe think about their setup and their approach to massage in a semi-legit setting. Lines are being blurred, and girls are getting greedy. A steady flow of people want only the basics, and will be repeat customers for years if they are respected. If not they will go somewhere else until they find what they want. I guess the same can be said for those who want more mileage, but there are far more places that offer that than the basics if feels like at the moment.

I really hope the city of Toronto can get back to an experience-based industry. It will always be a money driven industry too, but the money will always come if the experience is good as well.

Mav
Very much agree with OP, the lack of receptionist has changed the experience for me as well, in several ways as you mention, but the most annoying is when your MPA has to leave the room to answser the front, that needs resolution as it kills the mood and then feels rushed after that............put up a sign, back in half an hour or something............if you can't bring the receptionist back.
 
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problem is they dont want to lose the customer at the door, they just put him in a room and tell him to wait, if they dont go to the door he most likely will walk and find another place ,meanwhile you are laying there waiting for her to get back to you, which is no good for you especially if you were about to cum when she left you
 
problem is they dont want to lose the customer at the door, they just put him in a room and tell him to wait, if they dont go to the door he most likely will walk and find another place ,meanwhile you are laying there waiting for her to get back to you, which is no good for you especially if you were about to cum when she left you

That's true, but on the plus side the MPA has to then spend more time handling your frank & beans for the re-fluff than would have been the case without the interruption.
 
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That's true, but on the plus side the MPA has to then spend more time handling your frank & beans for the re-fluff than would have been the case without the interruption.
Usually the opposite it seems, that they are then rushed to speed up the process and now the next person is waiting...........
 
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  35. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบOpen Sunday Wonder spa(9421Jane st unit127)โ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800.very big boost Joey and Sunny working today,Joey is sexy girl ,she can provide very good massage with sensual touch, nice Sunny can provide deep tissue massage,she got a lot experience,come see them today,welcome to walk in๐ŸŒบ๐Ÿ‘™much try๐Ÿท๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด:[/color] Hot Busty BLONDE Girl today at Alice Spa: ELLA (12pm-9pm): is a small & curvy white young girl from Romania, super super busty EE Cups, blue eyes, blond hair, ok services, bbbJ cfs. Please call before booking her due to high demand. Alice Spa has DEBIT PAYMENT available now! Plenty of free parking. Front and back entrance. ALICE SPA, 4915 Steeles Ave. E,
  37. xodyhard:
    Anyone know tracy from forever spa,does anyone where she working aside in forever spa?
  38. Golden Sunshine Spa:
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  39. ASPA:
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  40. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer & Mia. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Mia is a Caribbean service queen temptress with incredible curves & very friendly attitude. She is able to bbbj
  41. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธAmy & Suki. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills SUKI is a sexy lady, short with big boobs, medium massage & nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด
  42. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Meet๐ŸŒธRebecca๐ŸŒธTiffanyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  43. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix blossom Spa โ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธโ™จ๏ธtable shower ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘body scrub๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน5124 Dundas W Etobicoke โ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366 Nice girl Luna is joining. She can provide a very good massage with sensual touch. She knows how to take direction and please a man. Jessica ๐Ÿ˜˜can provide deep Thai massage. She takes directions very well. She has many assets and knows how to use them. Come see her today.Welcome to walk in or make an appointment at any time. Plenty of parking space at the back door
  44. Red Rose Spa:
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  45. Bnblover:
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  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CARA & JOLIE. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CARA is a young & attractive Chinese attendant, 5โ€™3โ€ & 100 pounds with natural C Cup big boobs, very friendly
  48. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Helen๐ŸฅฐBrand new very young university student from Hong Kong. Great massage skills with a wild flirtatious side willing to tease and please to bring you to satisfaction. Perky natural 34C breasts perfect for kissing and body slide
  49. hiyamickey:
    Reinella wellness will have 6 girls working, young petite Japanese girl Amanda, Queenie, Lucky, Jenny, Vanessa, Ella @6262 hwy7 unit #1 Vaughan โ˜Ž๏ธ๏ผš905-851-4888
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Monday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ELLA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž ELLA is a lovely Thai sweetheart, 5โ€™1โ€ with C Cups, smooth skin and a very pleasing attitude. TIFFANY is an amazing slim petite doll with natural 34C melons, slim waist, & a cute little 33โ€ booty. Tiffany has incredible bbbj skills, tastes as sweet as honey