Question Toronto or the Middle East?

[jimmyd]

I’ll take the opposing side to AOC any day of the week. It’s almost always the correct one.

‘STFU’: Israeli Arab Muslim slams AOC for calling Israel an 'apartheid state'

An Israeli Arab Muslim told Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to “STFU,” meaning “shut the f**k up” after she tweeted that Israel..

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[jimmyd]

Warning or no warning, people in Gaza have nowhere to hide from the rockets as they are trapped in an open air prison, genius!

Are you really this stupid? lol Or are you an expert troll? lol

Just pointing out the difference between the approach of Israel and Hamas. But I guess it’s no big deal. One fires rockets indiscriminately, the other sends warnings. One builds bomb shelters, the other uses kids and hospital patients as human shields.

Exactly the same!


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[jimmyd]

What would you like me to address?

I think you need to invest in a dictionary lol You create a pointless thread to vent because you are a zionist cuck and you get butt hurt when you receive backlash for your stupidity lol

I don't think you could fight your way out of a wet paper bag, let along construct a worthwhile argument to support your racist stance lol Keep your hands to yourself on the street and your mouth shut on here unless you are offering a decent review. Now fuck off.

First off, isn’t pork against your religion?

But seriously, you tried to gloss over the law breaking involved in all the protesting (the original thread subject). You don’t think it’s important to obey the laws of the country you reside?

How exactly does protesting issues here affect change anything in another “country”? All the protesting my family and friends did for my country of origin did nothing, besides make them feel virtuous.

Why didn’t you address the multiple ways the Palestinian leadership screwed themselves out of a Palestinian state?

I have no issues with protesting, even if I disagree with what the protest is about. Why do BLM, Palestinians and dumb dumbs like you get offended by any critique these protests get? I never said to not protest.

Define xenophobia and racism.

Why are you so butthurt about me complaining about a nonsensical protest? Don’t worry, there’s enough pro Hamas people in this world that my little old comments won’t dissuade anyone from supporting them.

No response on the $235 million Palestine got in aid?

Lastly, you’re keeping this thread alive by posting. I’ll just keep replying and posting things to debunk your nonsense.


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[jimmyd]

Ha!

The difference between Israel; a U.S.-backed terrorist state that demolishes homes, news buildings, hospitals, clinics, schools, places of worship etc indiscriminately since 1948 and Hamas; an Israeli creation established in 1987 in response to 40 years of Palestinian occupation, persecution, murder and terrorism.

You are simply parroting zionist propaganda lol Yet you fancy yourself educated on the subject matter lol Give it a rest lol

Nothing you’ve said hasn’t already been said by the likes of CNN etc., but you think you’re deep. It’s laughable.

The amount of anti semitism coming from you is insane, but you call others racist.


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[jimmyd]

Why do you assume I am Muslim or Middle Eastern? Because I oppose zionism? Look at you profiling and stereotyping lol

Protesting here and everywhere else in the world sheds light on the continued illegal occupation and annexation of Palestine by apartheid Israel. The people do it because news stations do not cover news, they censor the voices of the oppressed. Therefore, these protests are generating the response they are intending to generate - getting peoples' attention and making them talk about the ongoing occupation of Palestine and demanding freedom for Palestine and Palestinians.

People who care about humanity care about these protests because retards like you do not realize that everyone is created equally and everyone ought to be afforded equal rights no matter where they live, whatever religious beliefs they ascribe to, and whatever the level of pigmentation of their skin.

Xenophobia is the fear or hatred of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange. You asked rhetorically why pro-Palestinian protesters are living here and not in Palestine, the answer to your idiotic question is that they can't return home because an apartheid regime is occupying their homeland.

Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioural traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different ethnicity. Your support of Israel, a terrorist state established on the basis of zionism: a racist political ideology that espouses ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, demonstrates that you are racist and inhumane.

Do you finally recognize that you are demonstrating that you are racist and xenophobic based on your ridiculous posts?

Re: vaccinations, you are an idiot. Someone else already explained to you that 235 million does nothing for Palestinians when Israel controls import and export to and from Palestine via land, air and sea. So, they can't get the vaccines or any other medical supplies for that matter. Why do you continue to ask stupid questions?

You're not debunking anything lol You are publicly highlighting how profoundly stupid and racist you are.

Palestinian leadership did not screw themselves out of a Palestinian state you imbecile lol Israel had no intention whatsoever to agree to a two-state solution, which is not the best solution anyway. Israel's goal is to ethnically cleanse Palestinians off their land and to continue to disrupt the Middle East with U.S. support.

Why do you think members of U.S. Congress have to pledge allegiance to Israel? Cynthia McKinney US Lawmakers Forced to Sign Pledge to Support Israels | From the Trenches World Report

You are a joke lol

That’s too bad, I wished you were Muslim. Are you just an ignorant SJW Canadian that thinks he knows more than he does?

Thanks for proving that I’ve said nothing racist or xenophobic. I thought you would’ve stopped yourself when you were typing out the definitions.

People who care about humanity don’t bring Molotov cocktails to the diamond district in New York. It’s so funny that you can’t bring yourself to condemn violence and law breaking.

I love how Israel calls a cease fire and the Palestinians celebrate as though they won.

I’d rather take the word of an Israeli Arab Muslim, from the link I shared, than you. You sound like the type of person that also thinks he knows what’s better for black people than they do.

Speaking of links, it’s interesting you haven’t provided many sources for your claims. Oh, that’s right the media is owned by the Jews. Another anti Semitic thing you’ve said.


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[jimmyd]

Seems the intellectual discussion has given rise to banter.

To the OP, I think the answer given was fair. Palestinians have no where to go.

Whether Israel is to blame for that, I dunno. Seems Hamas doesn’t want any Israel at all. If my enemy refused to acknowledge my right to exist, yeah, I’d show him who’s boss until he said okay, you can exist but perhaps we can agree to a two state solution. Are we at a two state solution yet?

It’s of course ironic that those who accuse Israel of stealing Palestinian land are writing from Stolen aboriginal land. How we reconcile this hipocracy is interesting. “Well, we stole it from Natives a long time ago”. “Oh but we acknowledge it’s their land when we attend conferences downtown”. Canada, America, Australia. New Zealand. How many countries were born from stolen land?

One of the reasons I made this thread, among others, was to see how many people veer off into the weeds on this controversial topic. Unfortunately, many have.

The post is literally called Toronto or the Middle East. It has nothing to do with who is protesting or why they are protesting. Solely to point out how they’re protesting. Only an idiot could/would sit in my position and witness all the law breaking I saw, and think it’s ok.


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[jimmyd]

The real reason you made this thread is because you are racist ad have disdain for other people, be honest. No one who is mentally stable would create such a thread on a massage forum and then parrot zionist propaganda for the sake of conducting a thought experiment.

Only an idiot would sit back for 73+ years witnessing an apartheid regime ethnically cleanse a people for fun and think it's OK. You are clueless. Read a book, or several lol

You have clearly demonstrated that you are inhumane and racist. Go crawl under a rock.

I don't believe I've stated this anywhere. I am acutely aware that I am a settler in Canada. At the same time, I am not walking around armed with weapons abusing or killing First Nations people, or proclaiming that someone's home was promised to me and kicking them out of said home.

The key distinction between Israel's colonization of Palestine and the other colonies you've mentioned is the method in which Israel continues to occupy and steal Palestinian land and starve Palestinians of resources in addition to terrorizing them, tormenting them and murdering them.

Hamas was borne out of Israel's apartheid regime. If there was no oppression, there would be no need for resistance. Literally no news station is reporting this fact. They are all reporting what Jimmy Neutron parrots.

A growing population of Jewish people have fallen out of favour with the zionist narrative and are calling for peace and equality with Palestinians. A two-state solution is not only impractical, but also unnecessary. A single state with all citizens enjoying equal rights and freedoms is the only answer. Not sure why this concept is so difficult to grasp for some.

Your denial to condemn the law breaking and violence is telling.

Again, you think you’re deep and knowledgeable on this topic, but you just repeat CNN and MSNBC talking points. We’ve heard them all before. Another thing you have in common with them, is they won’t report on the 250% increase in anti Semitic attacks across the US and Europe. What a coincidence.

When you support Hamas, who openly says “death to Israel”, you’re anti Semitic. When you side with an active terrorist group that was firing rockets indiscriminately at civilians, while shielding it’s own weaponry with children, you’re anti Semitic, and you don’t care about the children you claim to care for.

There have been Jews in the region since 1000 B.C.E. Jewish presence in the land predates the existence of Islam by 1600 years, minimum. The first and second temples were built hundreds of years before Islam even existed. So the goofy claim that this is some colonial outpost of western civilization is ridiculous.

This conflict will probably never end. And it’s unfortunate that so many are hurt by it. If people want to protest about it, good for them. In Canada, “peaceful protest” means protesting without violence, and following the law.

Funny how, as a Canadian, you can’t get behind that. Maybe it makes you feel progressive and virtuous. As part of a family that comes from another country, I find it disrespectful to even raise another country’s flag here (mine included), let alone break laws and assault others.


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[jimmyd]

The real reason you made this thread is because you are racist ad have disdain for other people, be honest. No one who is mentally stable would create such a thread on a massage forum and then parrot zionist propaganda for the sake of conducting a thought experiment.

Only an idiot would sit back for 73+ years witnessing an apartheid regime ethnically cleanse a people for fun and think it's OK. You are clueless. Read a book, or several lol

You have clearly demonstrated that you are inhumane and racist. Go crawl under a rock.

Keep calling me racist with with no evidence! It only makes you look bad. Calling out people’s actions is not racist. But I guess, to a goofy SJW, it is.

Hey, if you feel better about yourself, keep em coming!

Tell me, oh wise one, am I more inhumane than firing rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas? Just asking. I mean there’s gotta be different levels of inhumanity. Seems like you’re the expert.

PS. Your anger makes me laugh.

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[Cool-Story-Bro]

Nazi’s killed Jews. Not sure what point you’re trying to make.


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Yes, they did.
But Benjamin Nethanyahu killed Palestinian children.
Not sure, why are you defending him.

 

[Cool-Story-Bro]

I guess it beats firing rockets with no warning, or no?


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So the magic word is "warning" to destroy other personal properties ?
So anyone can damage your own BMW, all somone has to do is to give a 2 minute warning & go ahead. You would be cool with that ?

 

[jimmyd]

Yes, they did.
But Benjamin Nethanyahu killed Palestinian children.
Not sure, why are you defending him.

When Hamas hides behind children, that’s not Israel killing kids.


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[jimmyd]

So the magic word is "warning" to destroy other personal properties ?
So anyone can damage your own BMW, all somone has to do is to give a 2 minute warning & go ahead. You would be cool with that ?

Funny how you don’t address indiscriminately firing rockets into Israel, first.


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[sy barite]

I haven't denied condemning law breaking. Your discomfort with people protesting for human rights under an apartheid regime is telling.



Actually, mainstream media, which includes CNN and MSNBC, is censoring what is happening to Palestinians. You have nothing to add so you keep repeating this nonsense when it is factually inaccurate lol

I do not condone anti-Semitic attacks. These attacks are evidence that the general population, including you, is unable to think comprehensively regarding the oppression of Palestinians. Ignorance dictates that reductionism is the answer (eg, if something is not black then it has to be white, if something is not right then it has to be wrong etc.) This is why you and others conflate anti-zionism with anti-semitism, when in fact anti-zionism is a duty toward humanity, and anti-semitism is borne out of racism.



Again, you are creating a false dichotomy because your reductionist pea brain cannot reconcile that Israel is the oppressor. Hamas was created in 1987, almost 40 years after the creation of Israel in response to continued Palestinian occupation and persecution. Shame on you for suggesting that people can't fight back for their rights. You are comparing the low-tech rockets fired by Hamas with specialized weaponry fired by Israel that demolished the entire city of Gaza. How do you make such a comparison, seriously?

You don't strike me as someone that would just lay down and play dead if someone were to knock on your door this evening and demand you leave your home and possessions or risk being killed. So, why would you expect such passivity of others?



Another false dichotomy. Ethnicity does not equal religion. The land is called Palestine, and Palestinians have a 4000 year history on the land. As I mentioned earlier, Christian, Jewish and Muslim Palestinians lived peacefully together before there ever was the creation of Israel in 1948. The zionist narrative for the creation of Israel was, and still is, based on false pretenses. What right did European Jews have to remove Palestinians from their homes? The answer is none whatsoever.

Everyone can live peacefully in one state with equal rights and citizenship. This apartheid regime is based on a mental illness propagated from generation to generation and it is unnecessary. But people like you continue to create false narratives inciting conflict and drama for no reason.



It will take a lot of work for the apartheid regime in Israel to end. It is possible, as evidenced by the end of apartheid in South Africa. The approach taken by Palestinians and supporters of Palestinian rights is similar to the approach employed by South Africans that led to the end of apartheid there. However, detractors like yourself are not helping the cause. If you cared about humanity, you would stand in solidarity for equal rights and freedom for Palestinians and condemn 73+ years of the Israeli apartheid regime.



Your uninformed opinion is baseless, meritless, and frankly, meaningless. All flags of legitimate countries who uphold the tenets of equality and human rights should be respected and should be freely raised anywhere in the world as a sign of solidarity with mankind.

Your method of labeling is also telling of your lack of understanding and education on this topic. Human rights are not political issues, religious issues, ethnic issues, or even nationalistic issues. Human rights are moral principles for certain standards of human behaviour and are regularly protected in municipal and International law. A fundamental lack of education worldwide is why the Israeli apartheid regime was not disbanded years ago. But tides are shifting and more and more people are becoming informed and involved in eradicating the last apartheid regime in modern history.

How do you suppose a one state solution would work when one side continually elects leaders that openly call for the genocide of Jews?

I don't for a moment claim that Israel's hands are clean, but you may wish to check your argument against that one simple fact. We don't need to imagine what Israel would do if they had overwhelming military superiority. They do have it and they've behaved with relative forebearance. If Hamas or Fatah had that superiority, Israel would end. Immediately. To advocate for a one state solution is the same as calling for the end of Israel. There is no moral equivalency here.

 

[jimmyd]

I haven't denied condemning law breaking. Your discomfort with people protesting for human rights under an apartheid regime is telling.



Actually, mainstream media, which includes CNN and MSNBC, is censoring what is happening to Palestinians. You have nothing to add so you keep repeating this nonsense when it is factually inaccurate lol

I do not condone anti-Semitic attacks. These attacks are evidence that the general population, including you, is unable to think comprehensively regarding the oppression of Palestinians. Ignorance dictates that reductionism is the answer (eg, if something is not black then it has to be white, if something is not right then it has to be wrong etc.) This is why you and others conflate anti-zionism with anti-semitism, when in fact anti-zionism is a duty toward humanity, and anti-semitism is borne out of racism.



Again, you are creating a false dichotomy because your reductionist pea brain cannot reconcile that Israel is the oppressor. Hamas was created in 1987, almost 40 years after the creation of Israel in response to continued Palestinian occupation and persecution. Shame on you for suggesting that people can't fight back for their rights. You are comparing the low-tech rockets fired by Hamas with specialized weaponry fired by Israel that demolished the entire city of Gaza. How do you make such a comparison, seriously?

You don't strike me as someone that would just lay down and play dead if someone were to knock on your door this evening and demand you leave your home and possessions or risk being killed. So, why would you expect such passivity of others?



Another false dichotomy. Ethnicity does not equal religion. The land is called Palestine, and Palestinians have a 4000 year history on the land. As I mentioned earlier, Christian, Jewish and Muslim Palestinians lived peacefully together before there ever was the creation of Israel in 1948. The zionist narrative for the creation of Israel was, and still is, based on false pretenses. What right did European Jews have to remove Palestinians from their homes? The answer is none whatsoever.

Everyone can live peacefully in one state with equal rights and citizenship. This apartheid regime is based on a mental illness propagated from generation to generation and it is unnecessary. But people like you continue to create false narratives inciting conflict and drama for no reason.



It will take a lot of work for the apartheid regime in Israel to end. It is possible, as evidenced by the end of apartheid in South Africa. The approach taken by Palestinians and supporters of Palestinian rights is similar to the approach employed by South Africans that led to the end of apartheid there. However, detractors like yourself are not helping the cause. If you cared about humanity, you would stand in solidarity for equal rights and freedom for Palestinians and condemn 73+ years of the Israeli apartheid regime.



Your uninformed opinion is baseless, meritless, and frankly, meaningless. All flags of legitimate countries who uphold the tenets of equality and human rights should be respected and should be freely raised anywhere in the world as a sign of solidarity with mankind.

Your method of labeling is also telling of your lack of understanding and education on this topic. Human rights are not political issues, religious issues, ethnic issues, or even nationalistic issues. Human rights are moral principles for certain standards of human behaviour and are regularly protected in municipal and International law. A fundamental lack of education worldwide is why the Israeli apartheid regime was not disbanded years ago. But tides are shifting and more and more people are becoming informed and involved in eradicating the last apartheid regime in modern history.

Everyone pushing for a one state solution also chants death to Israel, so not sure where you’re going with that.

You still haven’t condemned violence and law breaking. You’re such a great Canadian!

Newsflash, everything you said has been said by liberals, SJWs, and the mainstream, as original as you may think you are.

Yup, you’re right. Israel is the oppressor. They fight back when being attacked.

You’re laughable. For a guy who wants to talk pussy, you’ve certainly invested a lot of time in this thread.


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[sy barite]

Lol honestly does anyone actually really care about any of this one bit.

Do you think you are doing their cause justice. Do you actually think you are going to convince eachother of anything? At all? Ever?

What a joke

Obviously some care about what's going on in the world. As for attempts to convince each other....besides violence, conversation is the only tool available.

 

[Backatitagain]

Hamas does not represent all Palestinians, just like zionists do not represent all Jews. The false dichotomy you have portrayed is not helpful. A one state solution where all citizens have equal rights and can all vote and mobilize freely is essentially like any other democratic state in the world. What's wrong with this? The oppressed will be free, and the oppressor will not have to worry about retaliation any longer.



This is a fear expressed by all people who do not know real violence. Those who do know real violence, oppressors and oppressed, do not want it. Go speak to a veteran and ask them if they have fond memories of going to war. The overwhelming answer is no.

When speaking about moral equivalence, ask yourself this: who displays the virtuous conduct of morality, the Palestinians who accepted European Jews in 1948 and who were driven out of their homes as thanks for their acceptance of the migrants, or the ongoing Israeli apartheid regime that has been on a mission to eradicate all Palestinians (Christian, Jewish and Muslim) from the land for the past 73+ years?

You don't get to start the story where you want to. First principles thinking is necessary to build true knowledge on this issue and to look for viable solutions to resolve the ongoing problem.

God's work

 

[Deleted member 82509]

Only a total PIECE OF SHIT and/or APARTHEID israeli can support these disgusting obese amerikkkan jews stealing the homes and land of the (attractive, slim, decent) Native Palestinians.

Qur'an = satanic verses salmon rushdie was right

 

[snoopdoggie]

It’s about time a moderator gave you a time out for saying millions of people should be killed.


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Who said millions of people should be killed? Another Dumbass comment from a Dumbass person. Should we expect anything different?

 

[snoopdoggie]

It’s about time a moderator gave you a time out for saying millions of people should be killed.


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And if we had a moderator, you, Ursula, and Cola would have been kicked out a long time ago. You and Ursula, both say the stupidest comments than everyone else on here, combined.

 

[snoopdoggie]

Those Palestinians are Leeches.
They play the victim game and they know it earns them money.
Just like a street beggar who knows a certain song will garner them donations.

Productive people make society possible.
Leeches don't.

But the gov't segment and the 'charity' segment of the economy uses these people, and in turn these people use those segments to earn purchasing power both groups wouldn't have if they didn't cooperate and exploit the working, productive class.

It's an accepted form of theft in today's society.

I wouldn't talk if I were you.